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  • #226
    Originally posted by SLD View Post
    Why can't Sri Lanka ever create aircraft?
    Saw this late.

    Meaning manufacture ?

    Supply/demand. And the cost of building a safe plane is in Billions of $s

    Unless SL has lot of spare money ..

    Oh, even India has failed miserably trying to build a commercial plane.

    They do build War planes, as War planes don't have stringent safety standards and can spend lot of time in maintenance.

    Commercial planes make money - as long as they fly

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    • #227
      Originally posted by ecureilx View Post
      Saw this late.

      Meaning manufacture ?

      Supply/demand. And the cost of building a safe plane is in Billions of $s

      Unless SL has lot of spare money ..

      Oh, even India has failed miserably trying to build a commercial plane.

      They do build War planes, as War planes don't have stringent safety standards and can spend lot of time in maintenance.

      Commercial planes make money - as long as they fly
      And for argument sake SL had the money and stringent engineering standards to manufacture, we will not be able to compete because SL is hideously expensive. If you look at what's happening now and see items such as clothing etc which we used to make in the 90s are now being bought down from India or Bangladesh.

      This is not because of some conspiracy where we have to arm ourselves to the teeth but due to the scale of economics.

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      • #228
        Originally posted by LukeSkywalker View Post
        And for argument sake SL had the money and stringent engineering standards to manufacture, we will not be able to compete because SL is hideously expensive. If you look at what's happening now and see items such as clothing etc which we used to make in the 90s are now being bought down from India or Bangladesh.

        This is not because of some conspiracy where we have to arm ourselves to the teeth but due to the scale of economics.
        But.. but. .. some guys have decided to build planes. For SLAF. And then grow to modern planes ..

        Honestly I am not against innovation.

        but reinventing the wheel ?? Of course, we can, if we have a couple of billion dollars spare ..

        Sri Lanka can expand the wide reach

        If somebody asks why SL can't build a plane, see how many countries can successfully make SAFE and reliable planes:

        Boeing, Airbus, Embraer, Bombardier .. any more ?

        Heck, The russians with trillions of $ can't get it right. And include India too, with nearly half century of doing local assembly and manufacture of licenses, can't get a original product out.

        Maybe our Einsteins can get it right ?

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        • #229
          Originally posted by ecureilx View Post
          But.. but. .. some guys have decided to build planes. For SLAF. And then grow to modern planes ..

          Honestly I am not against innovation.

          but reinventing the wheel ?? Of course, we can, if we have a couple of billion dollars spare ..

          Sri Lanka can expand the wide reach

          If somebody asks why SL can't build a plane, see how many countries can successfully make SAFE and reliable planes:

          Boeing, Airbus, Embraer, Bombardier .. any more ?

          Heck, The russians with trillions of $ can't get it right. And include India too, with nearly half century of doing local assembly and manufacture of licenses, can't get a original product out.

          Maybe our Einsteins can get it right ?
          Dude don't get angry...!! OMG

          There is no plan to build passenger aircrafts or something like Boeing, Airbus, Embraer, Bombardier

          SLAF just got plan develop single engine small scale plane like Zlín, PT...

          We have done it previously also. Ray Wijewardana developed plane like this back in 70s or 60s. Did you ever visited Air Force museum? in Air Force museum there was another small plane like this which build in Sri Lanka by SLAF back in 60s or 70s.

          And also there is no possibility that government invest public money for this. So Don't worry..!!!!
          SLAF will develop it using their allocated budget and their resources. Just like Sri Lanka Army SLEME developed Buffel and Unibuffel.

          SLAF currently developing medium range UAV also.

          It is very good approach. At least they can use that for basic training and air shows. and it is very good motivation to our country. What is the wrong with innovations?
          Last edited by Randy; 25-10-2017, 04:30 AM.

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          • #230
            Originally posted by Randy View Post

            And also there is no possibility that government invest public money for this. So Don't worry..!!!!
            SLAF will develop it using their allocated budget and their resources. Just like Sri Lanka Army SLEME developed Buffel and Unibuffel.
            Where do you think this money comes from?
            Always fly a stable approach - it's the only stability you'll find this business

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            • #231
              Originally posted by Randy View Post
              Dude don't get angry...!! OMG

              There is no plan to build passenger aircrafts or something like Boeing, Airbus, Embraer, Bombardier

              SLAF just got plan develop single engine small scale plane like Zlín, PT...

              We have done it previously also. Ray Wijewardana developed plane like this back in 70s or 60s. Did you ever visited Air Force museum? in Air Force museum there was another small plane like this which build in Sri Lanka by SLAF back in 60s or 70s.

              And also there is no possibility that government invest public money for this. So Don't worry..!!!!
              SLAF will develop it using their allocated budget and their resources. Just like Sri Lanka Army SLEME developed Buffel and Unibuffel.

              SLAF currently developing medium range UAV also.

              It is very good approach. At least they can use that for basic training and air shows. and it is very good motivation to our country. What is the wrong with innovations?
              Well, our politicians have big ambitions, like the Satellite that went up there ...

              As long as they do assembly of basic trainers, custom builds, there's nothing wrong. It does keep interest in aviation and all, nothing wrong, to be honest. Its a great recruitment tool for youngsters as well.

              but the news that came out had high plans, like building the next F15 competitor ?

              Originally posted by ejanson65 View Post
              Where do you think this money comes from?
              If SLAF needs money to build kit planes or assemble some trainers, for experience, and public interest and all, why not ?

              As long as they don't progress to assembling SU 35s. Using PUBLIC Money. If they find a generous donor then it's a different issue...

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              • #232
                Originally posted by ecureilx View Post
                Well, our politicians have big ambitions, like the Satellite that went up there ...

                As long as they do assembly of basic trainers, custom builds, there's nothing wrong. It does keep interest in aviation and all, nothing wrong, to be honest. Its a great recruitment tool for youngsters as well.

                but the news that came out had high plans, like building the next F15 competitor ?



                If SLAF needs money to build kit planes or assemble some trainers, for experience, and public interest and all, why not ?

                As long as they don't progress to assembling SU 35s. Using PUBLIC Money. If they find a generous donor then it's a different issue...
                SLAF was developing some UAVs in conjunction with Moratuwa university, now that is something where money is well spent in building up expertise (not à la missile spewing global hawks as some would immediately have wet dreams of but more in the range of disaster management, crop monitoring etc).

                Building trainers and kit planes I think it is a waste of time you can get cheaper reliable trainers from China instead of having to waste money building or lives testing them.

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                • #233
                  Originally posted by LukeSkywalker View Post
                  Building trainers and kit planes I think it is a waste of time you can get cheaper reliable trainers from China instead of having to waste money building or lives testing them.
                  I may still disagree on that.

                  Building kit planes, trainers etc helps keep the general public's interest in aviation alive, and gives wanna be flyers some joy.

                  Like how in the past, those joy rides were great recruiting tools for Airforces to find talent.

                  PS, trainers, I meant the likes of Cirrus, Cessna, and such

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                  • #234
                    Originally posted by ecureilx View Post
                    I may still disagree on that.


                    PS, trainers, I meant the likes of Cirrus, Cessna, and such
                    Ah.. I get what you mean, that would be a good (assembling) instead of designing from scratch and building

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                    • #235
                      US offers Secretary Class High Endurance Cutter to Sri Lanka Navy. Currently pending completion of Congress.
                      http://www.colombopage.com/archive_17B/Nov07_1510029283CH.php

                      Hamilton-class cutter - Wikipedia
                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamilton-class_cutter


                      Probably USCGC Midgett (WHEC-726), USCGC Munro (WHEC-724) or USCGC Mellon (WHEC-717)
                      Last edited by Randy; 07-11-2017, 05:00 AM.

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                      • #236
                        Did SLAF fix ADB-S transponders in there aircraft? FR24 is tracking a flight with Callsign N581 and has started flight from the jet aircraft hanger from SLAF ( this flight is cruising at 1300ft at 100knots in a holding pattern over Puttalam.

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                        • #237
                          Originally posted by SLD View Post
                          Did SLAF fix ADB-S transponders in there aircraft? FR24 is tracking a flight with Callsign N581 and has started flight from the jet aircraft hanger from SLAF ( this flight is cruising at 1300ft at 100knots in a holding pattern over Puttalam.
                          No, no. That is a Training Cessna 172, which I think Sakurai Aviation got down to Colombo recently from US. It has still not been changed into a Sri Lankan registration yet.
                          Haleef Ismail
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                          • #238
                            Originally posted by Haleef View Post
                            No, no. That is a Training Cessna 172, which I think Sakurai Aviation got down to Colombo recently from US. It has still not been changed into a Sri Lankan registration yet.
                            Anyway, why doesn't SLAF fix ADB-S transponders in Helitours flights?

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                            • #239
                              Originally posted by SLD View Post
                              Anyway, why doesn't SLAF fix ADB-S transponders in Helitours flights?
                              Not sure. Probably they might not like the idea of the public tracking their aircraft I guess.
                              Haleef Ismail
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                              • #240
                                Sri Lanka proposes increase in defence spending for 2018

                                The Sri Lankan government has proposed a 2018 defence budget of LKR290.7 billion (USD1.9 billion). The allocation is contained in the 2018 appropriation bill, which was presented to Sri Lanka’s parliament on 9 October.

                                The defence budget amounts to about 7% of total government expenditure for 2018, and marks a 2.3% increase over 2017 military expenditure, which totalled LKR284 billion.

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                                http://www.janes.com/article/74751/sri-lanka-proposes-small-increase-in-defence-spending

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