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  • #1771
    Does anyone know the progress of the cabin upgrades? So far I have A330: ALA, ALB & ALC and A340: ADF

    Also, is anything happening to the older A320's? Are they going to be brought upto the standard of the new ones?

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    • #1772
      Originally posted by kenkari View Post
      What is going on????
      All of the European Airline Operators have terminated the CMB flights. I don't know what is happening behind the scene :-(

      Originally posted by Praetorian View Post
      I see.

      Wouldn't it be better if UL actually purchased some aircraft, rather than relying on leases? It requires a lot of capital to be sunk in initially, however just as the same manner UL acquires leased aircraft (to which UL has to pay money to the owning company) UL with its own aircraft can lease them out after 10 years use to someone else and earn money from the aircraft lease.

      This way UL will actually have some solid assets as well.

      With the leases running out on these aircraft (are they all A340s??) has UL planned on acquiring new planes, inducting them in now. Because to use the currently outdated aircraft (cabin conditions wise alone) for another 6 months-to a year is very disastrous to the brand. People are already blasting UL with hatred for sending out such poor/old aircraft based on the cabin conditions (poor seats, inflight system), which are frankly terrible, and I know this because I had first hand experience recently. Things are made worse by our competitors offering better services. UL is driving passengers away.
      UL CEO said to Airline Business Daily that they are looking at a possible blended approach, where we own 25% and lease 75%. Hopefully we will purchase the widebody aircraft which are going to replace the ageing ADA, B & C in 2013/14.

      Originally posted by NeatStuff View Post
      Does anyone know the progress of the cabin upgrades? So far I have A330: ALA, ALB & ALC and A340: ADF

      Also, is anything happening to the older A320's? Are they going to be brought upto the standard of the new ones?
      ALJ currently undergoing it's cabin upgradation. ADE is next. Older A320s are on short leases I doubt UL will upgrade them.

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      • #1773
        Originally posted by Banuthev View Post
        All of the European Airline Operators have terminated the CMB flights. I don't know what is happening behind the scene :-(
        If memory serves me right, Western European airlines have never real flown to CMB since the 1990s. Think Austrian Airlines did a stint not too long ago, planned to re-start, then bailed entirely.

        Regarding Eastern European airlines i don't think there is enough traffic volumes to make it profitable for them.

        Also should take into account UL likes to protect it's routes (London-CMB etc).

        Lufthansa said they had interest in HIA and there have been some talk regarding this.

        UL CEO said to Airline Business Daily that they are looking at a possible blended approach, where we own 25% and lease 75%. Hopefully we will purchase the widebody aircraft which are going to replace the ageing ADA,B & C in 2013/14.
        I see, well thats cool! Hopefully they will get the new wide bodies soon and induct them into the fleet, rather than wait till the end of 2013/when the leases expire.

        ALJ currently undergoing it's cabin upgradation. ADE is next. Older A320s are on short leases I doubt UL will upgrade them.
        I actually thought they had bought this beast and that new A320 outright. Wish they did.

        Thanks for the update Banuthev

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        • #1774
          Banuthev,
          What are these circuits/devises at the front of the seats head rest areas for?

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          • #1775
            Praetorian: that looks like a Mad Dog cabin, and one carrier was experimenting with 'in seat' speakers, so you don't need headsets, as some of the long distance busses in Philippines are also kitting their busses out ..

            Maybe .. same ..

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            • #1776
              Originally posted by ecureilx View Post
              Praetorian: that looks like a Mad Dog cabin, and one carrier was experimenting with 'in seat' speakers, so you don't need headsets, as some of the long distance busses in Philippines are also kitting their busses out ..

              Maybe .. same ..
              Thats interesting. Has it's pro-and cons, saves the airline of having to dole out headsets. If it breaks they can provide passengers with headsets, however if the system malfunctions (not just stops out right) could be a problem for passengers.

              I was thinking these are head rests that on push of a button fold in/out??

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              • #1777
                Its probably just something from the PTV display unit at the back of the seat.

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                • #1778
                  Originally posted by NeatStuff View Post
                  Its probably just something from the PTV display unit at the back of the seat.
                  Ah, that makes the most sense

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                  • #1779
                    Bangkok-Colombo Route Update - Thai AirAsia has announced their operation-base will be moved permanently from Suvarnabhumi to Don Mueang in 1st Oct 2012. Budget Airline, Thai AirAsia decided to return to Don Mueang as AoT is offering fee discounts to attract airlines to return to Don Mueang, including a 95% reduction on fees for aircraft takeoff and landing, fee reduction for check-in counter services as well as office renting. It's likely Don Mueang will become a base for Domestic and Low-cost airlines in Bangkok while Suvarnabhumi concentrates on the legacy carriers. Presently Suvanabhumi-Colombo route being lead by SriLankan Airlines which is now offering Twenty one flights per week when Cathay Pacfic with three weekly, Thai Airways with three weekly and Thai AirAsia with three weekly. With this Thai AirAsia's move, Thai Airways will increase the frequency of Colombo flights from the current three weekly to four weekly in Winter 2012.

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                    • #1780
                      Originally posted by Banuthev View Post
                      ALJ currently undergoing it's cabin upgradation. ADE is next. Older A320s are on short leases I doubt UL will upgrade them.
                      Hope after this UL will not get bad comments on IFE on SkyTrax

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                      • #1781
                        Originally posted by Banuthev View Post
                        Bangkok-Colombo Route Update - Thai AirAsia has announced their operation-base will be moved permanently from Suvarnabhumi to Don Mueang in 1st Oct 2012. Budget Airline, Thai AirAsia decided to return to Don Mueang as AoT is offering fee discounts to attract airlines to return to Don Mueang, including a 95% reduction on fees for aircraft takeoff and landing, fee reduction for check-in counter services as well as office renting. It's likely Don Mueang will become a base for Domestic and Low-cost airlines in Bangkok while Suvarnabhumi concentrates on the legacy carriers. Presently Suvanabhumi-Colombo route being lead by SriLankan Airlines which is now offering Twenty one flights per week when Cathay Pacfic with three weekly, Thai Airways with three weekly and Thai AirAsia with three weekly. With this Thai AirAsia's move, Thai Airways will increase the frequency of Colombo flights from the current three weekly to four weekly in Winter 2012.
                        21 flights a week?? :O
                        Thats 3 a day.

                        If you include the other 9 from the other airlines, thats A LOT of people going to Bangkok and back.

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                          • #1783
                            As you can see in the Winter 2012 Network info I posted below, SriLankan Airlines Route Network is very much improved as they are providing a daily nonstop flights to most of the destinations. Also frequency of flights have been increased on the profit making destinations. Only concern I have on UL is about the ageing A340-311s which are no-longer suitable to haul the long-range flights because of the poor quality of seats and old IFE in Economy Class. 4R-ALH inducted to the fleet in Dec 2011 also has no IFE in Economy Class and it has poor quality of seats so UL got to utilise 4R-ALH (MSN627 young A332 in UL fleet) for short and medium hauls. Therefore the cabins of 4R-ALH needs to be upgraded up to the standard to serve the long-hauls. Until the lease-end, ageing A340-311s could be used for only medium range flights. Since the pax-demand on long haul flights are low, UL is better purchase three A330-300s to serve China and Medium Hauls while long-range flights served by A330-200s and A343-313Xs.

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                            • #1784
                              So the A330s which have been refurbished have only got new business class? With the same small screens for economy as before?

                              4R-ADF is that the only A340 which was been fully upgraded both business and economy class?

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                              • #1785
                                Was 4R-ALH recently acquired?? Because it's economy class apparently has no inflight system. Not a good thing.

                                Replacing the A340s, UL should perhaps aquire 4 A330-200s on lease and purchase 2 A330-300s or 2 A350s? Of course this requires a lot of capital to be invested.

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