Sri Lanka Aviation

**banuthev** · 18-02-2015, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by banuthev

I heard Stansted based Titan Airways to take delivery of SriLankan's 4R-ABJ in November 2014.

Originally posted by Skyliner

affirm, latest dispo says Titan Airways, to enter service in February 2015

On the 04-02-2015, 4R-ABJ flew out of Colombo to Jakarta and came back to Colombo on 17-02-2015 for some reason ? http://www.flightradar24.com/data/ai...r-abj/#58be53a . I heard 4R-ABJ will do test flight on 19/2/2015 prior delivery to next customer. Are they still going lease 4R-ABJ (MSN2564) to Titan Airways as G-POWM? When it's a delivery?

Another news UL flew nonstop flight on HKG-CMB on 16/2/2015 onboard 4R-ALB, and flying nonstop flight on CAN-CMB on the 18-02-2015 for Chinese New Year.

**CFMaero** · 18-02-2015, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by banuthev

On the 04-02-2015, 4R-ABJ flew out of Colombo to Jakarta and came back on 17-02-2015 for some reason ? http://www.flightradar24.com/data/ai...r-abj/#58be53a

Yeah it came back from CGK last evening.. I was on the MJ flight when it ferried to CMB.. it landed after we landed at CMB..

it was still scrapped.. full white.. Capt. Pujitha Jayakody's son flew the aircraft from CGK to CMB

Yeah as I heard from it went to CGK for painting. But it came back to CMB for some commercial reason.. I'm not sure though.. but as I far as I know it was in CGK for painting..

**banuthev** · 18-02-2015, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by banuthev

Airbus A319 to enter for Mihin Lanka service from March 2015 according to their reservation system. Any body know the details of the aircraft? brand new/second hand ? MSN?

I think Mihin Lanka going to take delivery of A319 of ex-Air Macao / B-MAM / MSN1893 on the 23/02/2015. New Rego of this bird might be 4R-MRF. I am still awaiting for confirmation and more information.

**MalaysiaMustafa** · 19-02-2015, 07:49 AM

Originally posted by banuthev

I think Mihin Lanka going to take delivery of A319 of ex-Air Macao / B-MAM / MSN1893 on the 23/02/2015. New Rego of this bird might be 4R-MRF. I am still awaiting for confirmation and more information.

Will it be additional or will they retire any of its current fleet?

**ejanson65** · 19-02-2015, 08:38 AM

Finally....

http://www.dailymirror.lk/64109/ational-carrier

Hopefully this will mean a large number of Donkeys get fired from the Airline.

**Max** · 19-02-2015, 08:38 AM

Originally posted by banuthev

I think Mihin Lanka going to take delivery of A319 of ex-Air Macao / B-MAM / MSN1893 on the 23/02/2015. New Rego of this bird might be 4R-MRF. I am still awaiting for confirmation and more information.

Air Lease Corporation AL announced long term lease agreements with Air Macau for two new Airbus A321-200 aircraft, which are scheduled for delivery in October 2014 and March 2015.

Link - http://www.marketwatch.com/story/air...cau-2013-05-21

New A321 replaces the old A319

B-MAM - MSN1893 - Airbus A319-100 - Delivered on 27. Jan 2003 - Age 12.2 Years

**anthonylk** · 19-02-2015, 09:31 AM

Originally posted by Max

Air Lease Corporation AL announced long term lease agreements with Air Macau for two new Airbus A321-200 aircraft, which are scheduled for delivery in October 2014 and March 2015.

Link - http://www.marketwatch.com/story/air...cau-2013-05-21

New A321 replaces the old A319

B-MAM - MSN1893 - Airbus A319-100 - Delivered on 27. Jan 2003 - Age 12.2 Years

Was this an agreement with the previous government ? Why don't they merge the 2 & both operate as Sri Lankan Airlines ?

**banuthev** · 19-02-2015, 09:56 AM

Originally posted by anthonylk

Was this an agreement with the previous government ? Why don't they merge the 2 & both operate as Sri Lankan Airlines ?

Originally posted by MalaysiaMustafa

Will it be additional or will they retire any of its current fleet?

According to press, 4R-MRF is an additional aircraft to the Mihin Lanka current fleet which includes single A320 and couple of A321s. This lease agreement of A319 (valid for 2015-2017) was signed by the previous government.

**banuthev** · 19-02-2015, 10:03 AM

Originally posted by ejanson65

Merging Mihin with UL is a huge mistake imho. It just adds Mihin's finacial liabilities to those of UL. Still very unclear what penalty will have to be paid for the non delivery of the 2 738's. Also unclear how many of Mihins routes are profitable (my guess - none of them!).

I think Dhaka, Lahore and Seychelles could become profitable destinations for SriLankan Airlines. Do you think SL Government could close the Mihin Lanka without merging Mihin Lanka with SriLankan? What will happen to Mihin Lanka's existing fleet if they merge or close? Yesterday I spoke to Mihin Lanka employee who said Mihin Lanka will be operating as normal until April 2015 , and SriLankan and Mihin Lanka are still in the talks to findout what to do with this useless airline (Mihin Lanka).

**Max** · 19-02-2015, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by anthonylk

Was this an agreement with the previous government ? Why don't they merge the 2 & both operate as Sri Lankan Airlines ?

Aviation industry specialist Peter Hill has been hired as a consultant to National Carrier SriLankan Airlines for one year.

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http://www.ft.lk/2015/02/16/peter-hill-back-onboard-ul-as-consultant/

Need to get a new restructuring strategy for UL.

UL & MJ is in a terrible financial state since 2007 !!

**lordvader** · 19-02-2015, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by banuthev

According to press, 4R-MRF is an additional aircraft to the Mihin Lanka current fleet which includes single A320 and couple of A321s. This lease agreement of A319 (valid for 2015-2017) was signed by the previous government.

If its only a two year lease then it should time well for it to be replaced by an A320/1NEO in a few years time.

**ejanson65** · 19-02-2015, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by banuthev

I think Dhaka, Lahore and Seychelles could become profitable destinations for SriLankan Airlines.

I don't think there's a market to any of these places - the huge losses at Mihin seem to confirm they are losing money on all the routes. This is why a comprehensive audit is needed.

There is speculation surrounding the Seychelles and the opening of a branch of a Sri Lankan Bank there. This also needs to be fully investigated.

Do you think SL Government could close the Mihin Lanka without merging Mihin Lanka with SriLankan? What will happen to Mihin Lanka's existing fleet if they merge or close? Yesterday I spoke to Mihin Lanka employee who said Mihin Lanka will be operating as normal until April 2015 , and SriLankan and Mihin Lanka are still in the talks to findout what to do with this useless airline (Mihin Lanka).

Without more public funding Mihin will simply go bankrupt. There are laws covering this. The aircraft will go back to the leasing companies. I'm not a legal expert but I think this is a far cheaper option for the GOSL.

There must be figures available that detail what the various options are going cost. Enough public money has been wasted already imho.

I'd like to see figures for HRI published as well.

**lordvader** · 19-02-2015, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by ejanson65

I don't think there's a market to any of these places - the huge losses at Mihin seem to confirm they are losing money on all the routes. This is why a comprehensive audit is needed.

There is speculation surrounding the Seychelles and the opening of a branch of a Sri Lankan Bank there. This also needs to be fully investigated.

Without more public funding Mihin will simply go bankrupt. There are laws covering this. The aircraft will go back to leasing companies. I'm not a legal expert but I think this is a far cheaper option for the GOSL.

Yes it would be far cheaper but it would make aircraft leasing companies reluctant to deal with UL or any GOSL related entity since they would have a 'black mark' against their name if they did that. And I've also heard there may be guarantees given by the government or associate banks against these aircraft.

**SLAA** · 19-02-2015, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by ejanson65

I don't think there's a market to any of these places - the huge losses at Mihin seem to confirm they are losing money on all the routes. This is why a comprehensive audit is needed.

There is speculation surrounding the Seychelles and the opening of a branch of a Sri Lankan Bank there. This also needs to be fully investigated.

Wrong. I don't know about Seychelles, but Dhaka is doing incredibly well. I fly on that route about 3 times a year and it's always performing very well. Lahore on the other hand can be developed with the right frequencies. Lahore in general is pretty underserved (due to the political situation in Pakistan) and there's good opportunity for connecting flights to South East Asia/Far East. High risk though

**dilushasg-bdavi** · 19-02-2015, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by ejanson65

I don't think there's a market to any of these places.

Flights between CMB and DAC operate at almost full capacity through out the year......its near impossible to get an empty seat during the peak season.

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