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  • ecureilx
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 616

    #6916
    Originally posted by TheF15Ace
    Once the A320 fleet becomes all NEOs it wouldn't make sense to keep just two A321s with the older engines. However I do hope that SriLankan will also acquire some A321NEOs because that aircraft would be ideal (in terms of capacity) for many of the narrowbody routes SriLankan currently flies.
    There was some news that the PW1000Gs are having a lot of teething problems, and LH has paused the deliveries.

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    • TheF15Ace
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2016
      • 113

      #6917
      Originally posted by ecureilx
      There was some news that the PW1000Gs are having a lot of teething problems, and LH has paused the deliveries.
      From what I've heard there are two problems with the new engines:

      One is a software issue where the engine keeps sending multiple error messages to the cockpit.

      The other is the extra start up time required due to cooling issues after shut-down on the previous flight.

      This is why LH has flown the A320NEO on intra German routes so far, because engineering support is needed at the airports it lands at. However Pratt & Whitney has stated that by the end of 2016 these issues should be ironed out.

      It is also worth noting 6E has so far taken delivery of 2 A320NEOs and expects another one by the end of March.
      Last edited by TheF15Ace; 18-03-2016, 09:42 AM.

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      • dilushasg-bdavi
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 555

        #6918


        msn 52 is undergoing outdoor ground tests

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        • Speedbird
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 616

          #6919
          Originally posted by Aaqib
          With the spare capacity available at Mihin Lanka's utilization of aircraft, was pondering on why they dont relaunch flights to HRI on the A319?
          A frequency 3 to 4 times a week would be practical mainly to serve commuters and business folk along with tourists would be practical as I recall the daily flights UL157/158 operated by UL in the past did have a load factor of over 75% and that too being operated on the A320's

          Cinnamon Air plans to start operations in the next few months and that too being on a Cessna aircraft with pretty exorbitant prices for such a short hop as well as Helitours now focusing mainly on tourists and thereby increasing fares by nearly twice as what they where before
          Business trips to Mattala? UL flights to HRI were heavily subsidized

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          • A350-XWB
            Junior Member
            • Feb 2016
            • 18

            #6920
            Originally posted by banuthev
            Hello Skyliner, A350-XWB, Digitalairliners etc..

            Earlier today, UL's first A350 (MSN52) was rolled out to P18 for outdoor ground tests. Any pictures/updates?
            We have no pictures yet. We will share them as soon as we have one.

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            • lordvader
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 366

              #6921


              Most ppl on Airliners.net seem to think UL will take the initial 3 leased frames and swap the later direct orders for either A330NEOs or A321NEOs. What happens remains to be seen!

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              • A350-XWB
                Junior Member
                • Feb 2016
                • 18

                #6922
                Originally posted by banuthev
                Hello Skyliner, A350-XWB, Digitalairliners etc..

                Earlier today, UL's first A350 (MSN52) was rolled out to P18 for outdoor ground tests. Any pictures/updates?
                Hi guys,

                all of the three leased frames for UL have entered the Final Assembly Line in Toulouse:

                MSN52 | UL#1 - Station 18, Outdoor ground test (pictures shound appear very soon !) - I expect this one to be painted in ~ 2 months

                MSN55 | UL#2 - Station 30, Indoor ground test & cabin customisation

                MSN60 | UL#3 - Station 50, Fuselage join

                If everything works well, Airbus should be able to deliver all the three frames by at least ~ September / October 2016

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                • Sandaru
                  Administrator
                  • Oct 2015
                  • 361

                  #6923
                  Originally posted by A350-XWB
                  .......
                  Thanks A350-XWB, Fingers crossed!! Waiting for pictures

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                  • A350-XWB
                    Junior Member
                    • Feb 2016
                    • 18

                    #6924
                    The UL A350 order won't be canceled. The penalties of a cancellation are too expensive. (1.5 million USD per A350)

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                    • ejanson65
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2013
                      • 628

                      #6925
                      Originally posted by A350-XWB
                      The UL A350 order won't be canceled. The penalties of a cancellation are too expensive. (1.5 million USD per A350)

                      http://www.ft.lk/article/524571/Rani...h--Ask-the-PM-
                      1.5 Million USD/aircraft is peanuts - lease payments will be around 1.3 Million USD/aircraft/month. Plus the costs of training/spares. They don't need these aircraft.

                      It makes no sense whatsoever - so there must be more going on.

                      Speculation - maybe the Politicians/Cronies would have to pay back the Commission on this deal if it was cancelled. That sure as hell isn't going to happen.

                      There is no question that some people made a lot of money on this deal.

                      Sri Lankan tax payers on the hook for Millions more.

                      No investigation (just more talk) and nobody held to account. Tragic.
                      Always fly a stable approach - it's the only stability you'll find this business

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                      • lordvader
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 366

                        #6926
                        Originally posted by ejanson65
                        1.5 Million USD/aircraft is peanuts - lease payments will be around 1.3 Million USD/aircraft/month. Plus the costs of training/spares. They don't need these aircraft.

                        It makes no sense whatsoever - so there must be more going on.
                        I agree but I think its just a matter of the journalists or the official getting their figures mixed up. Wouldnt be surprised if this figure is meant to be $1.5m per month given that these are leased frames.

                        In any case given the potential penalties its better for UL to take the first 3 aircraft (since theyre pretty much assembled) and renegotiate the order for the other 4 aircraft.

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                        • ecureilx
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 616

                          #6927
                          Originally posted by Aaqib
                          Cinnamon Air plans to start operations in the next few months and that too being on a Cessna aircraft with pretty exorbitant prices for such a short hop as well as Helitours now focusing mainly on tourists and thereby increasing fares by nearly twice as what they where before
                          Cinnamon and Helitours are pricing it correctly. A Caravan costs about 1,200 US$ per hour of flight, or there about, so how much would you want them to charge ? Or run at a loss ?

                          Don't forget there are lot of costs operating in SL, vs other countries.

                          But I do have reservations about SLAF competing with the private sector - you can say all about they are making money - but Armed forces are not supposed to be making money, and competing with private sector, and doing it cheap - they are killing the competition.

                          Originally posted by ejanson65
                          They don't need these aircraft.
                          I may disagree, UL needs these planes. Just because fuel is cheap doesn't mean one of these days if somebody goes to war with somebody else, it will still stay low.

                          Better to update to better metal, than be an outdated airline.

                          I do agree there may have been kick backs - as somebody said - cost of doing business - but they weren't over priced. In some trades, the item sells for 100$, with a 10$ commission, and if you insist you don't want the commission, the supplier wont' reduce your price. Still you pay 100 $ And aircraft sales has something along that line. Of course, you can negotiate the 10 $ commission to something else worth 5$, but those going into politics are not there to serve the country - they want to come out with a 10 to 50 million $, and that's still not enough.
                          Last edited by ecureilx; 20-03-2016, 08:30 AM.

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                          • ejanson65
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 628

                            #6928
                            Originally posted by ecureilx
                            I may disagree, UL needs these planes. Just because fuel is cheap doesn't mean one of these days if somebody goes to war with somebody else, it will still stay low.
                            UL Management is on record as saying that they don't need these aircraft.

                            Better to update to better metal, than be an outdated airline.
                            Not when the Airline has lost $1 Billion dollars and is insolvent (see Weliamuna Commission report).

                            I do agree there may have been kick backs - as somebody said - cost of doing business - but they weren't over priced. In some trades, the item sells for 100$, with a 10$ commission, and if you insist you don't want the commission, the supplier wont' reduce your price. Still you pay 100 $ And aircraft sales has something along that line. Of course, you can negotiate the 10 $ commission to something else worth 5$, but those going into politics are not there to serve the country - they want to come out with a 10 to 50 million $, and that's still not enough.
                            Again see the Weliamuna Commission report. This deal is questionable at best. The fact that only new aircraft are being ordered says enough imho.

                            There is ample opportunity for theft, fraud and corruption. I have outlined previously how this works. See the previous MiG deal as an example of how this works.

                            It is almost impossible to conduct legitimate business in Sri Lanka because there is zero accountability.

                            The real giveaway is the fact that all investigations into this deal are being blocked. Tells me all I need to know.
                            Always fly a stable approach - it's the only stability you'll find this business

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                            • banuthev
                              Administrator
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 3947

                              #6929
                              Is UL confirmed its going to operate 5 weekly to FRA from July 2016? I'm having issues accessing UL timetables on their website from mobile.

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                              • anthonylk
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2014
                                • 128

                                #6930
                                Originally posted by banuthev
                                Is UL confirmed its going to operate 5 weekly to FRA from July 2016? I'm having issues accessing UL timetables on their website from mobile.
                                SriLankan Airlines from July 2016 is boosting operations on Colombo – Frankfurt route, with the addition of 5th weekly flight. The new flight operates on Mondays, on board Airbus A330-300, effective 11JUL16.

                                UL553 CMB0005 – 0705FRA 333 1
                                UL553 CMB0025 – 0730FRA 333 357
                                UL557 CMB1215 – 1920FRA 333 6

                                UL554 FRA1520 – 0450+1CMB 333 x246
                                UL558 FRA2050 – 1020+1CMB 333 6

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