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  • banuthev
    Administrator
    • Dec 2010
    • 3947

    #5596
    Originally posted by Serendib
    Pakistan is the second largest trading partner of Sri Lanka in South Asia. The signing of new MoUs will further enhance bilateral cooperation. Recently, Sri Lankan Airlines has expressed an interest in expanding its operations in multiple cities in Pakistan and has also invited Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) to operate more flights to Sri Lanka. This will increase people to people contact between the two countries. The cultural heritage of both countries provides a sound basis for building and nurturing a multifaceted partnership to their mutual advantage. Their shared values and concerns about regional security justify the increased interaction of their economies and reinforcing of the institutional framework for cooperation - http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/
    Hi Gambler787, Do you know when PIA planning to start Colombo service? I agree SriLankan should be expanding more flights to Lahore & Islamabad.

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    • jbalonso777
      Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 35

      #5597
      Originally posted by Srilankan1
      As Banu mentioned in his post UL has found passengers on this sectors making unnecessary damages to the interior of those New Aircrafts.
      You have a point, sir.
      It is true: SE Asia - Middle East are notorious for passengers not respecting the aircraft as such. UL's seeing it on their A333s, AI on their B787s, etc..

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      • Max
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2011
        • 919

        #5598
        For current UL situation my choice -

        4 X A320
        6 X A321
        7 X A330-200 - Lease Extension to 2020
        7 X A330-300
        7 X A350-900 - Delivery Scheduled - 2018 - 2020
        Last edited by Max; 21-04-2015, 12:19 PM.

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        • dilushasg-bdavi
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 555

          #5599
          Originally posted by Max
          For current UL situation my choice -

          4 X A320
          6 X A321
          7 X A300-200 - Lease Extension to 2020
          7 X A330-300
          7 X A350-900 - Delivery Scheduled - 2018 - 2020
          Aren't the A359s scheduled for late 2016?

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          • Serendib
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 1807

            #5600
            Originally posted by Max
            For current UL situation my choice -

            4 X A320
            6 X A321
            7 X A300-200 - Lease Extension to 2020
            7 X A330-300
            7 X A350-900 - Delivery Scheduled - 2018 - 2020
            Why do we need old A300? Did you mean A330-200?

            Originally posted by dilushasg-bdavi
            http://www.flightradar24.com/data/airplanes/4r-mrf

            -MRF isn't active since 8th April
            Why 4R-MRF is not flying again?

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            • anthonylk
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2014
              • 128

              #5601
              Given the current route network of UL, best would be:

              4 X A320
              6 X A321
              7 X A330-200
              7 X A330-300

              Would like to see the A350's as well, at least a couple, but there is still no official confirmation if this order has been cancelled or put on hold ?

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              • banuthev
                Administrator
                • Dec 2010
                • 3947

                #5602
                Originally posted by Serendib
                Why 4R-MRF is not flying again?
                I heard 4R-MRF has been wet-leased to SriLankan Airlines for about three months as 4R-ABM sent for maintanance. But this A319 still been parked in the CMB's remote apron and not yet started flying. What a waste keeping the aircraft on the ground while paying the lease bills to the leasing company (ALC). Any news on merger of UL & MJ? Gov has to think about part-privatise the UL to some foreign airline (QR, EY..)

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                • banuthev
                  Administrator
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 3947

                  #5603
                  Originally posted by anthonylk
                  Given the current route network of UL, best would be:

                  4 X A320
                  6 X A321
                  7 X A330-200
                  7 X A330-300

                  Would like to see the A350's as well, at least a couple, but there is still no official confirmation if this order has been cancelled or put on hold ?
                  As previously planned UL supposed to receive three A350-900s from ILFC in July, Aug and September 2016. I am not sure about the current situation about getting A350-900 to the UL fleet. But UL seriously need a long-haul aircraft because A332 and A333 can't meet the demand (fully loaded pax/cargo) for London route especially in the winter due to long flying hours.

                  In my opinion, SriLankan has to keep following aircraft fleet until 2020. Please remember SriLankan can't increase the fleet size from 21 aircraft due to their current financial position.

                  4 X A320 (ABM, ABN, ABO, ABP) (3 years old +)
                  4 X A321 (ABQ, ABR, ABS, ABT) (6-7 year old)
                  5 X A332 (ALB, ALC, ALD, ALH, ALJ) (Upgrade Cabins with Recaro seats)
                  6 X A333 (ALL, ALM, ALN, ALO, ALP, ALQ) (brand new)
                  2 x B772 (wet lease two B772s (314 seater) until july 2016. These two B772s should be leased with crew + maintanance. From July 2016, replace two B772s with two A350-900s on 12 years dry-lease)

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                  • flylanka
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2014
                    • 100

                    #5604
                    Originally posted by banuthev
                    As previously planned UL supposed to receive three A350-900s from ILFC in July, Aug and September 2016. I am not sure about the current situation about getting A350-900 to the UL fleet. But UL seriously need a long-haul aircraft because A332 and A333 can't meet the demand (fully loaded pax/cargo) for London route especially in the winter due to long flying hours.

                    In my opinion, SriLankan has to keep following aircraft fleet until 2020. Please remember SriLankan can't increase the fleet size from 21 aircraft due to their current financial possition.

                    4 X A320 (ABM, ABN, ABO, ABP) (3 years old +)
                    4 X A321 (ABQ, ABR, ABS, ABT) (6-7 year old)
                    5 X A332 (ALB, ALC, ALD, ALH, ALJ) (Upgrade Cabins with Recaro seats)
                    6 X A333 (ALL, ALM, ALN, ALO, ALP, ALQ) (brand new)
                    2 x B772 (wet lease two B772s (314 seater) until july 2016. These two B772s should be leased with crew + maintanance. From July 2016, replace two B772s with two A350-900s on 12 years dry-lease)
                    Agree with above but why wetlease two B772?

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                    • anthonylk
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2014
                      • 128

                      #5605
                      Originally posted by flylanka
                      Agree with above but why wetlease two B772?
                      Agree 100% on the Boeing Issue. Will A333 be able to meet the high LHR demand during winter months ?

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                      • Max
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 919

                        #5606
                        Originally posted by Serendib
                        Why do we need old A300? Did you mean A330-200?
                        I mean A330-200....

                        Originally posted by dilushasg-bdavi
                        Aren't the A359s scheduled for late 2016?
                        UL unlikely to get A350-900 in 2016.

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                        • Cayman
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 379

                          #5607
                          Originally posted by flylanka
                          Agree with above but why wetlease two B772?
                          Interesting discussion over the past couple of days as to ideal fleet choice of UL.

                          I think UL first need to define their role in clear and concise terms.

                          They need to abandon the prestige routes such as those in Europe (sans LHR) and focus on being the number one regional airline in South Asia.

                          Compared to others such as SQ, CX or even EK, UL has the cost advantage when it comes to labor and ground handling services, therefore, they need to run routes that are more labor intensive. These are usually short to medium haul routes as long haul and ULH incur hefty fuel bills (which UL buys at the same price as other carriers) and thereby eroding their advantage.

                          UL has tremendous scope in the region. Take CMB-DXB for example. EK has FOUR daily 777s (combination of 773 and 77W) while FZ has TWO daily 738s. UL in contrast operates and SINGLE A320 (occasional 332) daily. Obviously UL can increase the capacity as well as frequency to Middle East.

                          Similarly, they should increase the destinations and the frequency to India. Just like EK is the De facto "Indian carrier" for Westbound destinations, UL could be the "Indian carrier" for Eastbound destination via CMB, if they could create flight banks (waves) as EK has done in DXB.

                          UL is already strong in Japan and China. Why not add more frequency to these destinations and time them in a way connections and seamless at CMB.

                          As for the Long Haul operations, UL could have a daily flight to SYD and another daily to MEL and operate two connecting flights to LHR. This will allow them to tap in to the cost conscious Kangaroo route traffic as the total travel time will be similar to connecting via DXB, DOH or AUH.

                          In this scenario, I would envisage a UL fleet consisting of A320/1 for flights to India and Middle East, A333 to medium haul destinations and high density Middle Eastern routes and a bona-fide Long Hauler such as A359 for SYD/MEL-CMB-LHR ops.

                          And As for the Long haulers, if UL cannot afford the A359, why not lease some sparingly used A346s for a couple of years until they get back on their feet?

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                          • ejanson65
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 628

                            #5608
                            On Tuesday, the new Government is optimistic that those parts of the 19th Amendment (19A) to the 1978 Constitution -- cleared by the Supreme Court -- would be


                            The second part is about the "culture" at the Airline.

                            Until this ‘culture’ at the very apex changes, this country cannot hope to run a viable commercial airline.
                            All discussions about fleet and routes are meaningless unless this is tackled. This has to be done before anything else.

                            Ex Chairman Nishantha - no action taken against him
                            Ex CEO Kapila - no action taken against him
                            COO Druvi - still holding his post. No action taken against him.
                            HHR Pradeepa - still holding his post. No action taken against him.
                            Last edited by ejanson65; 21-04-2015, 08:11 PM. Reason: added text
                            Always fly a stable approach - it's the only stability you'll find this business

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                            • Serendib
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 1807

                              #5609
                              Originally posted by Cayman
                              And As for the Long haulers, if UL cannot afford the A359, why not lease some sparingly used A346s for a couple of years until they get back on their feet?
                              As we all know, the A346 is the worst thing ever to happen to the aviation industry. Does anyone have an idea A346 is profitable for UL? I was wondering A346 more fuel efficient than A343?

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                              • lordvader
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 366

                                #5610
                                Originally posted by Serendib
                                As we all know, the A346 is the worst thing ever to happen to the aviation industry. Does anyone have an idea A346 is profitable for UL? I was wondering A346 more fuel efficient than A343?
                                Could well be profitable given how low A346 leases currently are (even when compared to A333s etc).

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