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  • ecureilx
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 616

    #5581
    Originally posted by ejanson65
    Personal opinion:- A bankruptcy is a realistic scenario. There may not be any other option.

    See, the point of bankruptcy is - in Asian terms (not US Terms)

    1) to stop paying creditors any loan due
    2) stop any interest due on loans
    3) freeze the staff movement, and impose a pay freeze
    4) start trimming excess staff, with a consultant (kflyer may help there )
    5) come up with a rescue plan, with new loans or all measures, to revive the airline
    6) failing all of the above, shut down, forget the creditors, and let them rot with whatever they are due .. and dismiss all the staff

    Or as a regional Asian Airline did, find a investor to take over and privatise it ..

    Now the problem with UL is, who is the major creditor ?

    And you think the party in power is going to stay in power, if they fire the thousands of UL staff ?

    So back to plan B - continue pumping money ! And the previous management, I am sure, knew this, for them to go on a wild spending spree !

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    • Max
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 919

      #5582
      Turkish Airlines is also looking at introducing two direct flights to Sri Lanka from mid this year. "This is due to fast connections Turkish Airlines offers from Istanbul to other destinations". Currently, Turkish Airlines operates to Colombo with a stopover in the Maldives.

      See more at: http://www.dailynews.lk/?q=business/....sjpOfKmj.dpuf

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      • flylanka
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2014
        • 100

        #5583
        Originally posted by Max
        Turkish Airlines is also looking at introducing two direct flights to Sri Lanka from mid this year. "This is due to fast connections Turkish Airlines offers from Istanbul to other destinations". Currently, Turkish Airlines operates to Colombo with a stopover in the Maldives.

        See more at: http://www.dailynews.lk/?q=business/....sjpOfKmj.dpuf

        Makes sense to have direct IST-CMB flights as passengers to and from CMB are to IST and beyond as TK does not have fifth freedom on MLE-CMB-MLE sector. Plus TK too is expanding at a rate and flies into many European, Central European and African Cities that the QR, EK and EY dont fly.

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        • banuthev
          Administrator
          • Dec 2010
          • 3947

          #5584
          Originally posted by lordvader
          If at all they should forward plan and order some A350-1000s as extra aircraft (seeing UL already has A350-900s on order). By the time they get them in the early 2020s, hopefully UL would've overcome its debt issues. AFAIK it also has fairly similar capabilities to the 777-300ER.
          Bad news for UL that TK is going to double the daily flights on IST-CMB sector by using the maximum regulated capacity (14 weekly) per air service agreement. But TK double daily flights yet to be loaded in AIS/GDS system. Definately this will make UL to loose the business on European routes.

          It appears to be acquiring brand new A359s and A321Neos are expensive at present due to UL's dire financial situation. Also there are rumours, UL may cancel the A359 order with Airbus/ILFC. On the other hand, Definately UL is not going to increase the quantity of the fleet (from 21 aircraft) any time soon. So UL is better invest on larger aircraft like B777-300 (360+ seater on J/Y with good leg room) which can provide more capacity for European/Japan/Saudi/India/Maldives routes with their current frequency of flights. Unfortunatley A332/A333 (got 275/297seater) havn't got sufficient capacity for passenger & cargo to meet the demand of European routes especially for London (frequency restricted route after UL sold the slots) and Frankfurt. Do you think it will be cheap leasing couple of mid-aged B777-300s for European Routes instead of getting expensive Seven brand new A350-900s. Also UL better replace the two A320s (lease period for ABK/ABL expires in 2016/7) with younger leased two A321s (not brand new neos) and get only six x A330-300s instead of seven. As umedhah mentioned earlier, UL better extend the lease period on 5 of the younger A330-200s in the current fleet and maitain the airline fleet as : 4 x A320, 4 x A321s, 5 x A330-200s, 6 x A330-300s and 2 x B777-300s until they recover from losses. What do you think?

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          • flylanka
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2014
            • 100

            #5585
            Originally posted by banuthev
            Bad news for UL that TK is going to double the daily flights on IST-CMB sector by using the maximum regulated capacity (14 weekly) per air service agreement. But TK double daily flights yet to be loaded in AIS/GDS system. Definately this will make UL to loose the business on European routes.

            It appears to be acquiring brand new A359s and A321Neos are expensive at present due to UL's dire financial situation. Also there are rumours, UL may cancel the A359 order with Airbus/ILFC. On the other hand, Definately UL is not going to increase the quantity of the fleet (from 21 aircraft) any time soon. So UL is better invest on larger aircraft like B777-300 (360+ seater on J/Y with good leg room) which can provide more capacity for European/Japan/Saudi/India/Maldives routes with their current frequency of flights. Unfortunatley A332/A333 (got 275/297seater) havn't got sufficient capacity for passenger & cargo to meet the demand of European routes especially for London (frequency restricted route after UL sold the slots) and Frankfurt. Do you think it will be cheap leasing couple of mid-aged B777-300s for European Routes instead of getting expensive Seven brand new A350-900s. Also UL better replace the two A320s (lease period for ABK/ABL expires in 2016/7) with younger leased two A321s (not brand new neos) and get only six x A330-300s instead of seven. As umedhah mentioned earlier, UL better extend the lease period on 5 of the younger A330-200s in the current fleet and maitain the airline fleet as : 4 x A320, 4 x A321s, 5 x A330-200s, 6 x A330-300s and 2 x B777-300s until they recover from losses. What do you think?
            B777-300ER too much for UL but B777-200ER would have worked.. But getting 777 means a lot of additional costs. No viable and economical.

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            • dilushasg-bdavi
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2011
              • 555

              #5586
              Originally posted by flylanka
              B777-300ER too much for UL but B777-200ER would have worked.. But getting 777 means a lot of additional costs. No viable and economical.
              capacity wise a B777-200ER is quiet similar to an A340-300 or an A330-300.....it would be better to get a B777-300ER or an A340-600 (both would be expensive as one would need pilot trainning and the other would be highly fuel inefficient), once they become financial stable they can replace them with A350-1000s

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              • ecureilx
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 616

                #5587
                Originally posted by dilushasg-bdavi
                capacity wise a B777-200ER is quiet similar to an A340-300 or an A330-300.....it would be better to get a B777-300ER or an A340-600 (both would be expensive as one would need pilot trainning and the other would be highly fuel inefficient), once they become financial stable they can replace them with A350-1000s
                340-600s will do great, as long as the lease is low

                TG is undecided what to do with their retired fleet !

                They have good airframe hours left I think !

                Any Airbus is less hard to integrate vs any Boeing product, unless it came on a wet lease !

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                • 88gee
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 144

                  #5588
                  well i will start like this . Im not in aviation business but im an aviation freak !!

                  after checking about many airways and air crafts an idea came up to my mind to bring some life back to UL , but i dnt know how much this will be practical .

                  1) UL & MJ need to be merged . but UL MUST have a budget service to support pilgrims.
                  * UL must keep service to Varanasi , Gaya & I suggest UL must start KTM , and a destination like REP (Angkor) and I suggest these routs must
                  A319 with Y class config
                  2) UL must increase Indian destinations and start new routs like GOA , Hyderabad & I suggest Vijayawada too , that place has become a very
                  developing city and UL must use A 320/321 for this routes
                  3) For the Gulf routs UL must go for A330-200 and for the EU destinations I suggest the A330-300

                  now this is a totally my concept

                  For long haul destinations the ideal bird is 777-300 or 787-9 . AI does DEL-SYD in 787-8 nonstop and it is doing very well unfortunately Air bus doesn't have a fuel efficient bird where UL can buy AT THE PRESENT SITUATION . (I FEEL AT THE MOMENT WE CAN'T AFFORD A350-900/1000). But also at the moment we can't change AC types and switch to Boeing bcz then we have to invest more on pilot training , cabin crew training etc SO FOR SOME TIME WE HAVE TO BE WITH AIRBUS :/

                  I know A340-600 is not a good move but since we can't afford brand new A350s or even used 777s A340-600 is the best option . Lot of other airlines are retiring them so i guess we can find few of these birds for less price and the extra money we have to spend on fuel can be earned if we utilize them well .

                  So with the current UL situation my personal choice is having

                  4 X A340-600
                  5 X A330-300
                  5 X A300-200
                  4 X A321
                  4 X A320
                  3 X A319

                  once UL come back alive this will be my choice

                  7 X A330-300
                  5 X A321
                  5 X A320
                  4 X A319

                  2 X B787-9
                  2 X B777-300

                  UR COMMENTS ARE WELCOME

                  my suggested long haul destinations for UL

                  CMB-SIN-MEL
                  CMB-KUL-SYD-AKL
                  CMB-LHR-YTO
                  CMB-DXB-LAX


                  tnX
                  Last edited by 88gee; 17-04-2015, 05:13 PM.

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                  • Max
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 919

                    #5589
                    Finding the right balance between capacity and anticipated demand is not always exactly clear. As the day of departure approaches, it can be a challenge to refine capacity when a flight is expected to come in either significantly over or under what was originally forecasted in the fleet-planning process.

                    However, if you were able to adjust capacity as close as 45 days prior to departure to capture the additional anticipated demand, or downsize capacity to avoid spoilage, you could gain a significant financial benefit.

                    Close-in re-fleeting, also called demand-driven dispatch, is a business process that can help overcome unplanned spillage or shortfalls in a flight’s demand. By using revenue management forecasting data, the fleet type assigned to a given flight can be adjusted close to departure to better accommodate the anticipated increase or shortfall in demand. In instances where demand is lower than expected, a smaller common cockpit aircraft can be assigned for cost avoidance, and when demand is higher than expected, a larger aircraft can be assigned to capture additional revenue.

                    Typically the near-term swaps are made within the last 45 to 60 days prior to a flight’s departure. Common cockpit crew compatible fleet types such as A330-200/300, A320/321 and B-737/738/739 have shown to have the biggest financial impact.

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                    • banuthev
                      Administrator
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 3947

                      #5590
                      Please see below how SriLankan's brand new Airbus A330-343Es were operating last week from Colombo airport. Do you think SriLankan is utilising these brand new aircraft on the correct routes. In my opinion these brand new aircraft supposed to serve the high-yield market where SriLankan can make money from the high-spenders by giving best product (new aircraft/good service). But it appears to be SriLankan is sending these aircraft to some destinations where it's mostly used by labour traffic (e.g. Jeddah, Doha etc..). Sending this aircraft to low-yield destinations loosing money for our national carrier not only that also will make high-maintenance cost for these aircraft (e.g. I have seen in more occasions most of these labour passengers damage the seats, IFE etc..). I think SriLankan's flight planning department is not planning the aircraft/flight utilisation correctly. What do you think? Also has anyone flew on UL brand new A333s? share your experience?

                      4R-ALL/ALM/ALN flew to below destinations last week.

                      Colombo - London
                      Colombo - Male
                      Colombo - Beijing
                      Colombo - Shanghai
                      Colombo - Chennai
                      Colombo - Tokyo
                      Colombo - Jeddah
                      Colombo - Delhi
                      Colombo - Bangkok - Guangzhou
                      Colombo - Doha

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                      • Srilankan1
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 499

                        #5591
                        Originally posted by banuthev
                        Please see below how SriLankan's brand new Airbus A330-343Es were operating last week from Colombo airport. Do you think SriLankan is utilising these brand new aircraft on the correct routes. In my opinion these brand new aircraft supposed to serve the high-yield market where SriLankan can make money from the high-spenders by giving best product (new aircraft/good service). But it appears to be SriLankan is sending these aircraft to some destinations where it's mostly used by labour traffic (e.g. Jeddah, Doha etc..). Sending this aircraft to low-yield destinations loosing money for our national carrier not only that also will make high-maintenance cost for these aircraft (e.g. I have seen in more occasions most of these labour passengers damage the seats, IFE etc..). I think SriLankan's flight planning department is not planning the aircraft/flight utilisation correctly. What do you think? Also has anyone flew on UL brand new A333s? share your experience?

                        4R-ALL/ALM/ALN flew to below destinations last week.

                        Colombo - London
                        Colombo - Male
                        Colombo - Beijing
                        Colombo - Shanghai
                        Colombo - Chennai
                        Colombo - Tokyo
                        Colombo - Jeddah
                        Colombo - Delhi
                        Colombo - Bangkok - Guangzhou
                        Colombo - Doha
                        330-300's should fly London , Tokyo , Shanghai /Beijing , Frankfurt and Paris. may be Male too. But not on Indian Routes please.

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                        • flylanka
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2014
                          • 100

                          #5592
                          Originally posted by banuthev
                          Please see below how SriLankan's brand new Airbus A330-343Es were operating last week from Colombo airport. Do you think SriLankan is utilising these brand new aircraft on the correct routes. In my opinion these brand new aircraft supposed to serve the high-yield market where SriLankan can make money from the high-spenders by giving best product (new aircraft/good service). But it appears to be SriLankan is sending these aircraft to some destinations where it's mostly used by labour traffic (e.g. Jeddah, Doha etc..). Sending this aircraft to low-yield destinations loosing money for our national carrier not only that also will make high-maintenance cost for these aircraft (e.g. I have seen in more occasions most of these labour passengers damage the seats, IFE etc..). I think SriLankan's flight planning department is not planning the aircraft/flight utilisation correctly. What do you think? Also has anyone flew on UL brand new A333s? share your experience?

                          4R-ALL/ALM/ALN flew to below destinations last week.

                          Colombo - London
                          Colombo - Male
                          Colombo - Beijing
                          Colombo - Shanghai
                          Colombo - Chennai
                          Colombo - Tokyo
                          Colombo - Jeddah
                          Colombo - Delhi
                          Colombo - Bangkok - Guangzhou
                          Colombo - Doha
                          It is ok for these aircraft's to be used for short haul routes as a gap fill and to get maximum utilisation from the metal. But regularly using them on routes without a proper purpose a loss. Example: CX/TG/SQ all use their long haul B77W for short hops may it be for loads, cargo utilisation etc.. But not as the primary purpose of such aircraft's.

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                          • jbalonso777
                            Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 35

                            #5593
                            Originally posted by Srilankan1
                            But not on Indian Routes please.
                            Why not Indian routes specifically?

                            Btw, my brother is coming flying DEL-CMB on 30th April. Aircraft type is A330-200. I will report if it is an A330-300.

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                            • Srilankan1
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 499

                              #5594
                              Originally posted by jbalonso777
                              Why not Indian routes specifically?

                              Btw, my brother is coming flying DEL-CMB on 30th April. Aircraft type is A330-200. I will report if it is an A330-300.
                              As Banu mentioned in his post UL has found passengers on this sectors making unnecessary damages to the interior of those New Aircrafts.

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                              • Serendib
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 1807

                                #5595
                                Pakistan is the second largest trading partner of Sri Lanka in South Asia. The signing of new MoUs will further enhance bilateral cooperation. Recently, Sri Lankan Airlines has expressed an interest in expanding its operations in multiple cities in Pakistan and has also invited Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) to operate more flights to Sri Lanka. This will increase people to people contact between the two countries. The cultural heritage of both countries provides a sound basis for building and nurturing a multifaceted partnership to their mutual advantage. Their shared values and concerns about regional security justify the increased interaction of their economies and reinforcing of the institutional framework for cooperation - http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/

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