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  • TheF15Ace
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2016
    • 113

    #7081
    Originally posted by banuthev
    Is it true KLM to resume Colombo end of this year ? It seems to be twice a week flight onboard B787-900. Can't wait to see "Flying Dutchman" back in Colombo after such a long time
    I've read on airliners.net that the announcement will be made this week. I'm surprised they are not starting the route with an A330-200. No complaints though, KLM + the 787-9 is an epic combination.

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    • TheF15Ace
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2016
      • 113

      #7082
      Originally posted by banuthev
      Is it true KLM to resume Colombo end of this year ? It seems to be twice a week flight onboard B787-900. Can't wait to see "Flying Dutchman" back in Colombo after such a long time
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      It has been confirmed.

      Effective 31st October 2016, KL873/874 will operate twice a week using the 787-9

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      • banuthev
        Administrator
        • Dec 2010
        • 3945

        #7083
        Originally posted by TheF15Ace
        http://airlineroute.net/2016/05/01/kl-miacmb-w16/

        It has been confirmed.

        Effective 31st October 2016, KL873/874 will operate twice a week using the 787-9
        Thanks bro ! Good to see the schedules but do you think KLM can compete on Colombo route with only two weekly?

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        • TheF15Ace
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2016
          • 113

          #7084
          Originally posted by banuthev
          Thanks bro ! Good to see the schedules but do you think KLM can compete on Colombo route with only two weekly?
          Well KL is definitely going to have to fight for it on this route. Even though there are no non-stop flights the ME3 + TK will offer a ton of connections.

          Maybe their flying only twice a week, so that they can target the Dutch holidaymakers.

          The aircraft they will use has a good mix of seats 30J, 48Y+ and 216Y. Along with the superior economics the 787 provides it, seems that it is ideal for this, fairly long flight.

          In any-case I'm really rooting for KLM to succeed in this route and to see it grow in the future




          Official press release: http://news.klm.com/klm-offers-custo...-destinations/
          Last edited by TheF15Ace; 02-05-2016, 09:41 AM. Reason: To include the official press release by KL

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          • channa
            Senior Member
            • May 2013
            • 230

            #7085
            Originally posted by TheF15Ace
            Well KL is definitely going to have to fight for it on this route. Even though there are no non-stop flights the ME3 + TK will offer a ton of connections.

            Maybe their flying only twice a week, so that they can target the Dutch holidaymakers.

            The aircraft they will use has a good mix of seats 30J, 48Y+ and 216Y. Along with the superior economics the 787 provides it, seems that it is ideal for this, fairly long flight.

            In any-case I'm really rooting for KLM to succeed in this route and to see it grow in the future




            Official press release: http://news.klm.com/klm-offers-custo...-destinations/
            I wish even Lufthansa start CMB-FRA flights in near future. They operate twice weekly flights to MLE already

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            • dilushasg-bdavi
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2011
              • 555

              #7086
              Originally posted by channa
              I wish even Lufthansa start CMB-FRA flights in near future. They operate twice weekly flights to MLE already
              Even Aeroflot operates twice weekly on the SVO-MLE route with an A330-300. It is a shame that none of these airlines want to restart CMB atleast via MLE

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              • 744777
                Junior Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 10

                #7087
                Originally posted by banuthev
                Is it true KLM to resume Colombo end of this year ? It seems to be twice a week flight onboard B787-900. Can't wait to see "Flying Dutchman" back in Colombo after such a long time
                KLM 2 x Weekly CMB.
                Emirates 5 x Daily CMB from August.
                Qatar 3 x Daily CMB.
                Etihad 3 x Daily CMB.

                How many European airlines fly to Australia?
                Only BA 1 x Daily to SYD.

                Cannot see this lasting too long just like BA.

                Frequency and Connections = More Options, and this is what matters. The days when my father used to organise his leave based on the Air Ceylon LHR-CMB flight schedule are long gone.

                Hope that I am proved wrong.

                I have flown may times on KLM from LHR to CMB via AMS in the 70's and 80's. First trip was on a DC10-30 PH-DTE!

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                • Speedbird
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 616

                  #7088
                  Originally posted by 744777
                  KLM 2 x Weekly CMB.
                  Emirates 5 x Daily CMB from August.
                  Qatar 3 x Daily CMB.
                  Etihad 3 x Daily CMB.

                  How many European airlines fly to Australia?
                  Only BA 1 x Daily to SYD.

                  Cannot see this lasting too long just like BA.

                  Frequency and Connections = More Options, and this is what matters. The days when my father used to organise his leave based on the Air Ceylon LHR-CMB flight schedule are long gone.

                  Hope that I am proved wrong.

                  I have flown may times on KLM from LHR to CMB via AMS in the 70's and 80's. First trip was on a DC10-30 PH-DTE!
                  Missed one TK Daily to CMB

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                  • Speedbird
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 616

                    #7089
                    Originally posted by banuthev
                    Thanks bro ! Good to see the schedules but do you think KLM can compete on Colombo route with only two weekly?
                    I think this is a seasonal service (Winter) any way an extremely good news...More airlines will fly to CMB if they lowered the landing cost

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                    • banuthev
                      Administrator
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 3945

                      #7090
                      Originally posted by Speedbird
                      I think this is a seasonal service (Winter) any way an extremely good news...More airlines will fly to CMB if they lowered the landing cost
                      Reservation for direct AMS-CMB flights now open on KLM.com and it's EUR 824 for return flights for AMS-CMB 7-Nov and CMB-AMS 4-Feb.

                      According to Colombopage, KLM is going to operate AMS-CMB direct flights throughout Winter 2016. Don't they have enough demand to operate the CMB flights also in the Summer season? In the past AMS-CMB route was operated by Air Lanka (until 90s), KLM (until 90s) later the route served by Martinair and Arkefly.

                      There are developments we have seen several airlines served CMB for the Winter seasonal service from Nov 15 to Mar 16. Here are the names : Austrian Airlines (Austria), Neosfly (Italy), LOT (Poland) and Azuraair (Russia). Very sad BA hasn't showed any interest in operating LHR-CMB service after terminating LGW-MLE-CMB last year. UL cancelled Rome from the 1st May.

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                      • banuthev
                        Administrator
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 3945

                        #7091
                        Originally posted by Sandaru
                        Okay then if this is true, UL#1 A350 should be 4R-XWA and UL#3 should be 4R-XWC
                        That's a change from 4R-A** registrations of SriLankan. :-O
                        airfleets.net is showing UL is to take delivery of MSN55 with Reg : 4R-XWB : http://www.airfleets.net/listing/a350-1.htm

                        MSN52 undergoing rework while MSN55 still in the parking stand. Wondering why winglet is missing on MSN55 in the below picture.
                        A350-900 SRILANKAN AIRLINES MSN055 FUTUR 4R-XWB

                        source : Jérémy Le roch

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                        • TheF15Ace
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2016
                          • 113

                          #7092
                          MSN52 undergoing rework while MSN55 still in the parking stand. Wondering why winglet is missing on MSN55 in the below picture.
                          I don't think they are fitted on during final assembly. They will probably be added during the rework phase before being painted.

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                          • ejanson65
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 628

                            #7093
                            Originally posted by banuthev
                            According to Colombopage, KLM is going to operate AMS-CMB direct flights throughout Winter 2016. Don't they have enough demand to operate the CMB flights also in the Summer season? In the past AMS-CMB route was operated by Air Lanka (until 90s), KLM (until 90s) later the route served by Martinair and Arkefly.
                            Sri Lanka is a seasonal destination for Europeans (Winter only). Very little Premium traffic and it is a low yielding route.

                            There is also an issue with Sri Lanka pricing itself out of the market - Thailand and Malaysia are both much better value for money.

                            I flew for air holland when they operated AMS-MCT-CMB-MLE-MCT-AMS with the B752. This route was a huge money loser.

                            I flew for Martinair when they operated AMS-AUH-CMB-MLE-AUH-AMS with the B752 and later AMS-CMB-AMS with the B763. Again a money losing operation.

                            I can't see KLM doing any better - I expect this route will be discontinued after 1 season.
                            Always fly a stable approach - it's the only stability you'll find this business

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                            • TheF15Ace
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2016
                              • 113

                              #7094
                              Originally posted by ejanson65
                              Sri Lanka is a seasonal destination for Europeans (Winter only). Very little Premium traffic and it is a low yielding route.

                              There is also an issue with Sri Lanka pricing itself out of the market - Thailand and Malaysia are both much better value for money.

                              I flew for air holland when they operated AMS-MCT-CMB-MLE-MCT-AMS with the B752. This route was a huge money loser.

                              I flew for Martinair when they operated AMS-AUH-CMB-MLE-AUH-AMS with the B752 and later AMS-CMB-AMS with the B763. Again a money losing operation.

                              I can't see KLM doing any better - I expect this route will be discontinued after 1 season.
                              But the European winter holiday market has significantly changed. A lot of typical "sun" destinations in Northern Africa are being avoided due to the terror threat.

                              I have no doubt the flights you mentioned above were failures, but two were operated using a (relatively) short ranged aircraft using using a stop and the other by pushing a gas guzzling 767 to its limit.

                              This time a around might be different for KLM.

                              BTW competition from Thailand and Malaysia will always exist but some like a bit of variety or prefer to visit a destination that is not so mainstream.
                              Last edited by TheF15Ace; 06-05-2016, 04:32 PM.

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                              • ejanson65
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2013
                                • 628

                                #7095
                                More corruption at the DGCA...



                                ...alleged failure to adhere to international safety standards...
                                ...alleged fraud at the Civil Aviation Authority...
                                ...for violating the Chicago Convention...
                                "alleged" - yeah right!

                                Time for ICAO to act before there is an accident involving UL - all the conditions exist for this to happen - they've been very lucky not to have had one.



                                Probably just more talk.

                                I imagine that e-mails and letters have been deleted/destroyed especially since some of the people involved are still working at UL.

                                What a sad state of affairs!
                                Always fly a stable approach - it's the only stability you'll find this business

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