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  • banuthev
    Administrator
    • Dec 2010
    • 3947

    #6976
    Originally posted by Sandaru
    Well then once the F-WZFA aircraft undergoes paint phase, the manufacturer will apply the Turkish Airlines livery including the already painted (in UL Livery) vertical stabilizer right?
    That Sunday Times news says UL may lease 4 x A350s to Turkish Airlines. Those 4 x A350s were contracted as part of purchase agreement for direct order with Airbus and these birds were expected to be delivered to UL after 2018.

    I certainly sure UL will be taking delivery of 3 x A350 from Aercap this year/early next year as already planned.

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    • banuthev
      Administrator
      • Dec 2010
      • 3947

      #6977
      Originally posted by banuthev
      That Sunday Times news says UL may lease 4 x A350s to Turkish Airlines. Those 4 x A350s were contracted as part of purchase agreement for direct order with Airbus and these birds were expected to be delivered to UL after 2018.

      I certainly sure UL will be taking delivery of 3 x A350 from Aercap this year/early next year as already planned.
      Rahal, Is this true?

      SriLankan Airlines looking to sub-lease Airbus A350s
      SriLankan Airlines is in talks to sub-lease three Airbus A350 aircraft it is has to take delivery this year, Chief Executive Suren Ratwatte said. Prime Minister Ranil Wickremesinghe told parliament that SriLankan may have to cancel the A350 orders and pay penalties


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      • Haleef
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 1468

        #6978
        Originally posted by banuthev
        Rahal, Is this true?

        SriLankan Airlines looking to sub-lease Airbus A350s
        SriLankan Airlines is in talks to sub-lease three Airbus A350 aircraft it is has to take delivery this year, Chief Executive Suren Ratwatte said. Prime Minister Ranil Wickremesinghe told parliament that SriLankan may have to cancel the A350 orders and pay penalties


        http://www.economynext.com/SriLankan...0s-3-4689.html
        Yes, that news is true. There is a 70% chance of us not getting A350 aircraft.
        Haleef Ismail
        www.youtube.com/haleef1 | www.instagram.com/cmb_spotter

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        • TheF15Ace
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2016
          • 113

          #6979
          Originally posted by Haleef
          Yes, that news is true. There is a 70% chance of us not getting A350 aircraft.
          Any idea who will take up these aircraft?

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          • Speedbird
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2012
            • 616

            #6980
            Originally posted by TheF15Ace
            Any idea who will take up these aircraft?
            Negotiating with TK

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            • TheF15Ace
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2016
              • 113

              #6981
              Originally posted by Speedbird
              Negotiating with TK
              Interesting. Since TK currently doesn't have any A350s on order maybe they can use these 3 to test the waters and see whether it's suitable for their fleet.

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              • banuthev
                Administrator
                • Dec 2010
                • 3947

                #6982
                Originally posted by Speedbird
                Negotiating with TK
                Do you think Aercap will be okay for UL subleasing their 3xA350s to another airline?

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                • Speedbird
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 616

                  #6983
                  Originally posted by banuthev
                  Do you think Aercap will be okay for UL subleasing their 3xA350s to another airline?
                  In most leasing agreement sub lease is part of the agreement. I dunno how previous UL mgmt sign the lease agreement with Aercap. My only worry is if this lease agreement has a guarantor...if there is a guarantor then Aercap would not be much flexible...coz Aercap will go after the guarantor in case UL fails.

                  To Sublease...all 3 partners need to agree.

                  The sublessee is subject to the same lease terms & payment that the original lessee was subject to

                  Aercap will agree...they need someone to pay the full lease payments
                  UL well they want some one to pick up the lease payment as per the terms of agreement with Aercap
                  The most difficult part is...if TK would agree for the lease terms (which UL agreed with Aercap) and for the least payment (& what payment terms UL agreed with Aercap)
                  Last edited by Speedbird; 07-04-2016, 08:43 PM.

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                  • Sandaru
                    Administrator
                    • Oct 2015
                    • 361

                    #6984
                    SriLankan Airlines Smoke Filled Emergency Landing Into Bangkok – Passengers Refuse To Fly Back

                    A smoke filled SriLankan Airlines flight bound for Colombo from Bangkok declared an emergency soon after taking off last night (07 Apr) and returned to Suvarnabhumi airport with passengers and crew on board. Read More



                    SriLankan Airlines flight UL891
                    Airbus A330-243
                    Registration - 4R-ALJ

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                    • A350-XWB
                      Junior Member
                      • Feb 2016
                      • 18

                      #6985
                      Originally posted by Sandaru
                      Well then once the F-WZFA aircraft undergoes paint phase, the manufacturer will apply the Turkish Airlines livery including the already painted (in UL Livery) vertical stabilizer right?
                      Yes, if the aircraft are going to be leased to TK, they will probably get the TK livery. Unless it is just for a short time.
                      Last edited by A350-XWB; 08-04-2016, 08:41 PM.

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                      • ejanson65
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2013
                        • 628

                        #6986
                        Originally posted by Speedbird
                        Aercap will agree...they need someone to pay the full lease payments
                        UL well they want some one to pick up the lease payment as per the terms of agreement with Aercap
                        The most difficult part is...if TK would agree for the lease terms (which UL agreed with Aercap) and for the least payment (& what payment terms UL agreed with Aercap)
                        Knowing how things work at UL - they are paying too much for the leases (was also mentioned in the Sunday Times article). Whether this is just incompetence or whether someone is getting kickbacks is anyone's guess (either is possible).

                        Turkish is run like a Business - they will not pay what UL is paying to lease these aircraft. The issue is whether Aercap will renegotiate an already signed deal or whether UL will have to pay the difference.

                        These A350's are the final nail in the UL coffin - these orders will finish off UL imho.

                        No matter what happens the Sri Lankan people get screwed (again).
                        Always fly a stable approach - it's the only stability you'll find this business

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                        • Speedbird
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 616

                          #6987
                          Originally posted by ejanson65
                          Knowing how things work at UL - they are paying too much for the leases (was also mentioned in the Sunday Times article). Whether this is just incompetence or whether someone is getting kickbacks is anyone's guess (either is possible).

                          Turkish is run like a Business - they will not pay what UL is paying to lease these aircraft. The issue is whether Aercap will renegotiate an already signed deal or whether UL will have to pay the difference.

                          These A350's are the final nail in the UL coffin - these orders will finish off UL imho.

                          No matter what happens the Sri Lankan people get screwed (again).
                          That may be true...UL would have negotiated a premium lease payment. As you said previously culture of impunity is very much embedded inside Sri Lankan Gov. and its institutions. Even if you caught the guy with his hand in the cookie jar; he or she would deny that is someone else or political victimisation...this is normal who ever is governing Sri Lanka since independence

                          What UL could offer TK is that UL would give reduced or free ground handling to TK in CMB (UL charges exorbitant ground handling charges in CMB).

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                          • ejanson65
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 628

                            #6988
                            More on the culture of impunity and zero accountability. Everyone is looking out for themselves, their family and their cronies. Nobody cares about the Airline.




                            Word has reached me that Saliyah is no longer at Qatar - what are the odds that he shows up as another appointee at UL in the next few weeks? 100% imho.
                            Always fly a stable approach - it's the only stability you'll find this business

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                            • lordvader
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 366

                              #6989
                              Originally posted by ejanson65

                              Word has reached me that Saliyah is no longer at Qatar - what are the odds that he shows up as another appointee at UL in the next few weeks? 100% imho.
                              This might be of interest to you and could be relevant to your info (read about half way down the page):

                              Most Sri Lankans polled in a new survey by the Business Times (BT) on the future of debt-ridden SriLankan Airlines (SLA) say management must be handed over

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                              • ejanson65
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2013
                                • 628

                                #6990
                                Originally posted by lordvader
                                This might be of interest to you and could be relevant to your info (read about half way down the page):

                                http://www.sundaytimes.lk/160410/bus...ll-188990.html
                                Wishful thinking I'm afraid - makes no sense. There is zero benefit for Qatar - why would they spend several Billion and end up with an Airline that cannot make money and is riddled with corruption and incompetence from top to bottom.

                                Nobody
                                will touch this imho - this looks like more talk to give the impression something is being done. In the meantime everyone is busy collecting as much money as possible for themselves, their families, their friends and their cronies.

                                Sadly UL is finished imho - the only question is when not if the doors close.
                                Always fly a stable approach - it's the only stability you'll find this business

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