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  • Speedbird
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 616

    #7951
    Originally posted by lordvader
    http://www.sundaytimes.lk/161204/new...ee-219118.html


    Hope TPG wins, especially now that TMA/Blackstone and SATS aren't part of Super Group (which is now probably like Peace Air - a bunch of overenthusiastic investors promising the world). Even if TPG's bid is not as attractive as the former 2 bidders, at least they'll be realistic about SriLankan and it will have a good future given their wealth of experience turning around bankrupt airlines.
    Sounds very familiar...I see the vultures have arrived

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    • quickingleyero
      Junior Member
      • Dec 2016
      • 21

      #7952
      Hi!
      I'm a new member, here, although I've long been a true fan of UL (and, despite the many financial difficulties being faced by the carrier, it is a carrier that still maintains an extremely high level of service, and it remains my favourite carrier across the world). This Forum seems to include great discussions, and I'm happy to have stumbled across it.
      Anyway, I have three questions for now, if I may - (1) Does anyone know why 4R-ALH hasn't been flying for the past several weeks?, (2) It looks like 4R-ABL just had a test flight, today after a long period of inactivity... does anyone know the reason for the inactivity?, and (3) Apart from 4R-MRF, does anyone know the other UL/MJ aircraft that are supposed to be returned to lessors in 2017? (If I'm not wrong, UL has recently extended the lease for 4R-ALH from AerCap).
      Thank you!

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      • quickingleyero
        Junior Member
        • Dec 2016
        • 21

        #7953
        Hi, again!
        I just wanted to add two more points after reading some older posts on this fine Forum -
        (1) I believe that the domestic airline that the GOSL plans to start is going to make use of SLAF aircraft, which I think is a great idea since there's peace on the island, now... plus - using Air Force non-combat aircraft that are practically ready-to-use would save costs and also be immediately attractive to whichever investor ultimately partners with UL (so, the investment from the new partner could be better, too).
        (2) Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that seven aircraft will come in to the UL fleet between early 2017 and early 2018 - the two new 320s, the four new 321s, and the one new 333 (as per renegotiated deal with AerCap); and, two more 333s will be handed over to PIA within the next few months on a long-term dry-lease (although since PIA is suffering losses through its 333-based Premier Service, this dry-lease from UL might not be a 100% sure thing).
        Thanks and regards!
        Last edited by quickingleyero; 05-12-2016, 03:34 PM.

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        • ejanson65
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2013
          • 628

          #7954
          Originally posted by quickingleyero
          Hi, again!
          I just wanted to add two more points after reading some older posts on this fine Forum -
          (1) I believe that the domestic airline that the GOSL plans to start is going to make use of SLAF aircraft, which I think is a great idea since there's peace on the island, now... plus - using Air Force non-combat aircraft that are practically ready-to-use would save costs and also be immediately attractive to whichever investor ultimately partners with UL (so, the investment from the new partner could be better, too).
          This is illegal and violates multiple ICAO Regulations.

          There is no way for an Air Force to legally transport civilians or obtain an AOC for Commercial Operations.

          I've read that passengers have to sign a waiver for these flights (ie:- No Insurance coverage which is again illegal). Liability Insurance is tied directly to the issuance of an AOC. This should never have been issued.

          This is another example of the complete failure of the Rule of Law in Sri lanka.

          Why ICAO doesn't act is beyond me. Sri Lanka should be downgraded to Cat 2.
          Always fly a stable approach - it's the only stability you'll find this business

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          • AF777
            Member
            • Sep 2014
            • 55

            #7955
            Originally posted by banuthev
            Hello Mathias,

            Welcome to our Air Sri Lanka Forum !!

            When does Airbus is going to commence the final assembly of MSN 7486 ? Actually SriLankan Airlines is going to take delivery of MSN 7486

            Greetings from Sri Lanka
            SriLankan first A320neo (MSN7486) = 4R-ANA. Test Registration = D-AVVQ
            Last edited by AF777; 05-12-2016, 09:19 PM.

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            • quickingleyero
              Junior Member
              • Dec 2016
              • 21

              #7956
              The partnership of the SLAF (re: domestic airline) seems to be good to go -




              Apparently, the IAF also has a commercial operation for civilians -

              http://www.financialexpress.com/indi...nicobar/340409
              Last edited by quickingleyero; 05-12-2016, 10:18 PM.

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              • ejanson65
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2013
                • 628

                #7957
                Originally posted by quickingleyero
                The partnership of the SLAF (re: domestic airline) seems to be good to go -

                http://en.yibada.com/articles/176945...anes-china.htm
                There's no money to buy these - if you've been paying attention you'll know Sri Lanka is bankrupt. The IMF is calling the shots now.

                Your Politicians are good at Big Talk and Delusional Thinking - this is another example imho.

                Aircraft orders in Sri Lanka are nothing but Theft, Fraud, Corruption and Racketeering. The last thing that's needed in Sri Lanka is more aircraft imho.


                Apparently, the IAF also has a commercial operation for civilians -

                http://www.financialexpress.com/indi...nicobar/340409
                The article makes it clear this is a special case - it doesn't sound like they are running with a Commercial AOC.

                What the Sri Lankan Airforce is doing is illegal.
                Always fly a stable approach - it's the only stability you'll find this business

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                • LukeSkywalker
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 188

                  #7958
                  Originally posted by quickingleyero
                  The partnership of the SLAF (re: domestic airline) seems to be good to go -




                  Apparently, the IAF also has a commercial operation for civilians -

                  http://www.financialexpress.com/indi...nicobar/340409
                  I posted a similar link in our military forum. I am really not sure if this news article is correct... what is SL going to do with a behemoth like the Y-20? It is like using a sledgehammer to kill a mosquito. It is too large and expensive for either military or civilian use. I am not sure what the Airforce plans to do with such a huge aircraft, we are not strong to be using this gor any geopolitical reasons either. Common sense says this is a huge misquote. .

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                  • Tanveer
                    Junior Member
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 28

                    #7959
                    Originally posted by Azamh
                    Any news on PIA leasing A333
                    PIA will convert three Airbus A330-300 wet leased from SriLankan Airlines for PIA Premier service into dry leased aircraft to be operated by all-PIA crew, according to news reports.

                    It also means the A330 will be registered in Pakistan.

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                    • Azamh
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 246

                      #7960
                      Originally posted by Tanveer
                      PIA will convert three Airbus A330-300 wet leased from SriLankan Airlines for PIA Premier service into dry leased aircraft to be operated by all-PIA crew, according to news reports.

                      It also means the A330 will be registered in Pakistan.
                      It's a good news to PIA but for UL most of the routes will be done by A332 which is v old it's a sad. News for me...

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                      • banuthev
                        Administrator
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 3947

                        #7961
                        Originally posted by quickingleyero
                        Hi!
                        I'm a new member, here, although I've long been a true fan of UL (and, despite the many financial difficulties being faced by the carrier, it is a carrier that still maintains an extremely high level of service, and it remains my favourite carrier across the world). This Forum seems to include great discussions, and I'm happy to have stumbled across it.
                        Anyway, I have three questions for now, if I may - (1) Does anyone know why 4R-ALH hasn't been flying for the past several weeks?, (2) It looks like 4R-ABL just had a test flight, today after a long period of inactivity... does anyone know the reason for the inactivity?, and (3) Apart from 4R-MRF, does anyone know the other UL/MJ aircraft that are supposed to be returned to lessors in 2017? (If I'm not wrong, UL has recently extended the lease for 4R-ALH from AerCap).
                        Thank you!
                        According to our forummer (Rahal) , 4R-ALH is undergoing C Check until mid-December 2016;

                        4R-ABL is flying revenue flights since yesterday;

                        I think 4R-MRC and 4R-MRF are going to be returned back to the lessor;

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                        • Azamh
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 246

                          #7962
                          Originally posted by banuthev
                          According to our forummer (Rahal) , 4R-ALH is undergoing C Check until mid-December 2016;

                          4R-ABL is flying revenue flights since yesterday;

                          I think 4R-MRC and 4R-MRF are going to be returned back to the lessor;
                          Actually they should have kept the A333 and lease out the A332 I hate flying A332 plane is v aged and old business class. I notice most of the hkg flights are now a332
                          I gave up flysmiles today because of this I need to use cx or sq
                          This is my personal opinion

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                          • MalaysiaMustafa
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 104

                            #7963
                            Are 4R-MRE and 4R-MRD reconfigured to usual UL seat config after included in UL fleet?
                            Last edited by MalaysiaMustafa; 08-12-2016, 03:16 AM.

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                            • banuthev
                              Administrator
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 3947

                              #7964
                              Originally posted by MalaysiaMustafa
                              Are 4R-MRE and 4R-MRD reconfigured to usual UL seat config after included in UL fleet?
                              I highly doubt ex-MJ aircraft have been reconfigured in UL seat config. They just have been painted in all white livery but still been flying in ex-MJ configuration. May be UL will paint and reconfigure them during Jan-Apr 2017 when UL is cancelling most of the flights due to CMB runway maintanance. Most of the UL aircraft will be on ground during the time and better opportunity for UL to make their aircraft to spent time in hangar.

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                              • banuthev
                                Administrator
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 3947

                                #7965
                                Originally posted by Azamh
                                Actually they should have kept the A333 and lease out the A332 I hate flying A332 plane is v aged and old business class. I notice most of the hkg flights are now a332
                                I gave up flysmiles today because of this I need to use cx or sq
                                This is my personal opinion
                                I can notice UL have been using brand new A333 on HKG route : https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ul890

                                Please note 6 x brand new A320neo/A321neo are joining the UL fleet from Jan 2017. High chance UL will deploy A320neo/A321neo on Maldives, Far East and Middle East. I think UL must use brandnew A333 on NRT, PEK, PVG, HKG routes.

                                When does UL planning to retire A332 fleet ? UL already cancelled the 4 x A350s with Aercap. Any possibilities UL taking deliveries of rest of 4 x A350 from Airbus in 2020-2023.

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