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  • Max
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 919

    #496
    It will be better if Sri Lankan can get four Boeing 777-300ER aircrafts

    The Boeing 777-300ER ("ER" for Extended Range) is the B-market version of the −300. It features raked and extended wingtips, a new main landing gear, reinforced nose gear, and extra fuel tanks.

    The 777-300ER also has a strengthened fuselage, wings, empennage, and engine attachments. The standard GE90-115B turbofans are the world's most powerful jet engines in service, with a maximum thrust of 115,300 lbf (513 kN). The maximum range is 7,930 nautical miles (14,690 km), made possible due to a higher MTOW along with the increased fuel capacity.

    The 777-300ER can fly approximately 34 percent farther than the −300 with a full load of passengers and cargo. Following flight testing, the implementation of engine, wing, and weight modifications produced an added 1.4 percent reduction in fuel consumption.

    Benefits

    Using only two engines produces a typical operating cost advantage of around 8–9 percent for the 777-300ER over the A340-600.

    The 777-300ER’s direct Airbus competitor is the A340-600.

    As of 2011, 777-300 deliveries to 24 different customers totaled 272, with 220 unfilled orders. Operators had 237 aircraft in active service.

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    • LukeSkywalker
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 188

      #497
      Originally posted by Max
      It will be better if Sri Lankan can get four Boeing 777-300ER aircrafts

      The Boeing 777-300ER ("ER" for Extended Range) is the B-market version of the −300. It features raked and extended wingtips, a new main landing gear, reinforced nose gear, and extra fuel tanks.

      The 777-300ER also has a strengthened fuselage, wings, empennage, and engine attachments. The standard GE90-115B turbofans are the world's most powerful jet engines in service, with a maximum thrust of 115,300 lbf (513 kN). The maximum range is 7,930 nautical miles (14,690 km), made possible due to a higher MTOW along with the increased fuel capacity.

      The 777-300ER can fly approximately 34 percent farther than the −300 with a full load of passengers and cargo. Following flight testing, the implementation of engine, wing, and weight modifications produced an added 1.4 percent reduction in fuel consumption.

      Benefits

      Using only two engines produces a typical operating cost advantage of around 8–9 percent for the 777-300ER over the A340-600.

      The 777-300ER’s direct Airbus competitor is the A340-600.

      As of 2011, 777-300 deliveries to 24 different customers totaled 272, with 220 unfilled orders. Operators had 237 aircraft in active service.

      I really don't think UL will be or need to be flying further than LHR right now, unless they want to be flying a lot of empty metal around. For UL's business case the best aircraft is A340/A33-300 or a 787 (can't see that happening unfortunately), the operating efficiency would hardly matter if they can't fill seats.......

      Shouldn't you be indicating the source (i.e wikipedia) where you got the details from if you are copying and pasting verbatim ?

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      • Max
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2011
        • 919

        #498
        Originally posted by LukeSkywalker
        Shouldn't you be indicating the source (i.e wikipedia) where you got the details from if you are copying and pasting verbatim ?
        Source: http://www.boeingchina.com/ViewConte...92%8C777-300ER

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        • Max
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 919

          #499
          The Boeing 777-300ER extends the 777 family's span of capabilities, bringing twin-engine efficiency and reliability to the long-range market. The airplane carries 365 passengers up to 7,930 nautical miles (14,685 km).

          Boeing incorporated several performance enhancements for the 777-300ER, extending its range and payload capabilities. Excellent performance during flight testing, combined with engine efficiency improvements and design changes that reduce drag and airplane weight, contributed to the increased capability.

          Thirty years of innovation with proven, long-range success
          Last edited by Max; 05-07-2011, 12:35 PM.

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          • Max
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2011
            • 919

            #500
            Boeing 777-300ER

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            • Max
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 919

              #501
              Boeing may win SriLankan 777 order

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              • Max
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 919

                #502
                Guys Please Share your views regarding Boeing 777-300ER to SriLankan

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                • CalgaryLankan
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 255

                  #503
                  In real business, UL should go for the best deal. Switching to Boeing will add extra cost of maintaining a mix of Airbus/Boeing parts, trained techs, pilots etc etc. However, Boeing will do its best to get in to business with UL to break in to 100% airbus fleet. Unfortunately, in Sri Lanka the % of commission to politicos and others will also decide the deal. Overall, 777 is better replacement for 340s for fuel efficiency and cargo handling if the bottom line of the deal is a plus number.

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                  • Kflyer
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 169

                    #504
                    Originally posted by LukeSkywalker
                    Just don't see them filling a 777... Weren't all 340/330's sold and leased back? Should be just a case of dumping them back to the leaser when they get new air craft. The story doesn't make much sense at all, but this is coming from LBO who have a tad more credibility than the usual SL media.

                    If they are talking new aircraft directly with the manufacturers that means they want to order directly or get the manufacturers to finance the deal which also doesn't fit with their late strategy of leasing.

                    That said, I hope they go for A330-300s...
                    What makes you think that they cannot fill a 77W? And why do you think that they should use 332s to LHR?
                    The opinions above are solely my own and do not reflect those of my employer or clients

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                    • Kflyer
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 169

                      #505
                      Originally posted by CalgaryLankan
                      In real business, UL should go for the best deal. Switching to Boeing will add extra cost of maintaining a mix of Airbus/Boeing parts, trained techs, pilots etc etc. However, Boeing will do its best to get in to business with UL to break in to 100% airbus fleet. Unfortunately, in Sri Lanka the % of commission to politicos and others will also decide the deal. Overall, 777 is better replacement for 340s for fuel efficiency and cargo handling if the bottom line of the deal is a plus number.
                      As I hope you do know, an aircraft deal goes much farther than the list price and training costs.
                      The opinions above are solely my own and do not reflect those of my employer or clients

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                      • LukeSkywalker
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 188

                        #506
                        Originally posted by Kflyer
                        What makes you think that they cannot fill a 77W? And why do you think that they should use 332s to LHR?
                        From airliners.net (a thread started by you incidentally )

                        ttp://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/5072204/


                        an extract from reply 12 by user eksath


                        I ran some numbers for LHR - CMB. My assumptions are listed too. It supports your point of view.

                        Tourist traffic to Sri Lanka Stats:
                        [2009] = 447,890
                        [2010] = 654,476
                        % Change = +46.1%

                        Tourist from the U.K for 2010= 105,496
                        % Change from 2009 = +29%

                        Doing some calculations based upon assumptions:
                        Assumption 1: All UK tourist originate in LHR (only UL destination in the UK)
                        Assumption 2: Ignore other connecting traffic from North America (significant SL immigrant population total=400,000-500,000)
                        Assumption: All UK tourists to SL,fly on UL.

                        Current UL traffic = 2X daily X 365=730 trips
                        105,496/(730)= 146 UK passengers per flight.

                        A340-300 = 296 economy +18 business class= 314 seats.

                        Conclusion: UL has to fill the 168 extra seats per flight with other nationalities (i.e. North American market) or with Sri Lankans returning home. In the cursory estimate, it appears current capacity is adequate for LHR-CMB.



                        I recall seeing a much more recent airliners.net thread started by you about UL getting 777 which had a few good replies on why 777 is not a good idea for UL but can't seem to find it anymore...

                        332 seems to be the logical choice if they want to get rid of the 340 and use a stop gap measure till say the 350 arrives. But I think replacing the older 343s with slightly newer frames (343x) is a better measure. But that is my 2 cents....
                        Last edited by LukeSkywalker; 06-07-2011, 03:17 AM.

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                        • lordvader
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 366

                          #507
                          Whilst Max (and others) seems to be visibly excited at the prospect of UL getting 773ERs (judging from the number of posts he has posted on this topic), I agree with Lukeskywalker in thinking that the A330-300(X) would be a better aircraft to replace the A343s at the moment. Maybe when the tourism sector is fully stabilized in a couple of years, then UL could consider 773ERs. I think 773ERs would be a good long term aircraft for UL. An initial order of four like what Max suggested may be a good idea.

                          And any idea when the A332s will be refurbed?

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                          • banuthev
                            Administrator
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 4010

                            #508
                            SriLankan Airlines has now created a great looking introduction page for www.srilankan.aero. Also SriLankan's Websites in other languages - Chinese, Japenese, Deutche and Francais also been designed well exactly like their global site.

                            According to Amadeus, SriLankan Airlines has increased the number of flights to Dubai from 7 weekly to 12 weekly, effective 4th July 2011 until 15th July 2011. New flights are operating for UL225 on days : Mon, Tue, Wed, Fri and Sun on route Colombo to Dubai to Colombo, using A320s.

                            Here is the fligt schedule of UL225/6, Period 4-15 July 2011. source 1. source 2.

                            17:25 - 20:25 - UL225 - A320 - CMB-DXB - 1.2.3.7
                            18:45 - 21:45 - UL225 - A320 - CMB-DXB - 5.

                            21:25 - 03:40 - UL226 - A320 - DXB-CMB - 1.2.3.7
                            22:45 - 05:00 - UL226 - A320 - DXB-CMB - 5.

                            @ Lordvader - Friend of mine who work for SriLankan said they will lease 3 of the B777s to replace older A340s. I can not confirm since this is only a rumour.

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                            • Kflyer
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 169

                              #509
                              Originally posted by Banuthev
                              SriLankan Airlines has now created a great looking introduction page for www.srilankan.aero. Also SriLankan's Websites in other languages - Chinese, Japense, Deutche and Francais also been designed well exactly like their global site.

                              According to Amadeus, SriLankan Airlines has increased the number of flights to Dubai from 7 weekly to 12 weekly, effective 4th July 2011 until 15th July 2011. New flights are operating for UL225 on days : Mon, Tue, Wed, Fri and Sun on route Colombo to Dubai to Colombo, using A320s.

                              Here is the fligt schedule of UL225/6, Period 4-14 July 2011. source 1. source 2.

                              17:25 - 20:25 - UL225 - A320 - CMB-DXB - 1.2.3.7
                              18:45 - 21:45 - UL225 - A320 - CMB-DXB - 5.

                              21:25 - 03:40 - UL226 - A320 - DXB-CMB - 1.2.3.7
                              22:45 - 05:00 - UL226 - A320 - DXB-CMB - 5.

                              @ Lordvader - Friend of mine who work for SriLankan said they will lease 3 of the B777s to replace older A340s. I can not confirm since this is only a rumour.
                              I can confirm that it is only a rumour.
                              332 refurb is planned to begin in August. New config 18J/251Y.
                              The opinions above are solely my own and do not reflect those of my employer or clients

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                              • suzienderson
                                Junior Member
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 5

                                #510
                                Shri Lanka is a nice country. I have been there before 4 years with my friend. I like the Shrilankan airlines and I like the Katunayake airport.
                                ground service equipment

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