Sri Lanka Aviation

**lordvader** · 22-11-2012, 10:04 PM

Originally posted by CalgaryLankan

Which part of the information is incorrect?

http://www.planespotters.net/Product...ihin-Lanka.php

Looks like Mihin got an A320 according to Planespotters? Is that the right info Kflyer?

Wish Mihin got the A321 that Banu was talking about instead of MSN1946 which is almost 10 years old.

**indika7777** · 23-11-2012, 04:36 AM

Originally posted by Kflyer

Of course, I am in no position to answer that last question as that is not a decision you or I can make. But if possible, I would like you to analyze the most recent financial reports of both airlines. You may then realise that on an operational level MJ is now making a better return than UL. If used in the right way, MJ's business model is the perfect one that fits SL as the majority in SL cannot afford a full service air ticket. And the advantage of having a common management is that you can then use MJ as a tool for UL to fight the LCCs expanding rapidly into CMB. Again this all depends on the execution, but it is a sound model in theory.

I totally agree with Kflyer and Slaviator. There is a bigger aim behind of this coporatoion with UL and MJ. If you look at there are lot of full service carriers are suffering and thus they use this technique of having a subsidery LCC. Lot of examples to get off EK started flydubai and feeding in and out, SQ started Scoot and feeding in and out, QF started Jetstar and feeding in and out, Qatar is planing their own LCC.... these big players are making these move to catch up some part of their low end budget passenger business. So it is same that UL doing with Mihin. If you look at financials of MJ and UL you will realize. Please note flydubai to make its first profit it took nearly 5 yrs. So its not a miracle soon you restructure your business you will get the benefits right away. You will see this benefits with MJ in another couple of years.

**Cayman** · 23-11-2012, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by CalgaryLankan

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ASY956

Just noticed this XCH - CMB - XCH (Christmas Island) A319 flight by "Aussie" on Flightaware.

Expelled boat people.

Should have been put on a boat instead.

**Speedbird** · 24-11-2012, 04:50 AM

Originally posted by indika7777

... If you look at financials of MJ and UL you will realize. Please note flydubai to make its first profit it took nearly 5 yrs. So its not a miracle soon you restructure your business you will get the benefits right away. You will see this benefits with MJ in another couple of years.

Yes I had a look at the financial of MJ and UL...but they were all in RED...So "soon you restructure your business you will get the benefits right away. You will see this benefits with MJ in another couple of years"; which one is it?

So if your theory is correct I should be able to book EK code share flights in flydubai web site and SQ code share flights scoot web site correct?

I wonder what was EK, SQ and QF plans for competing against Air Arabia, Air Asia X and Virgin Australia.

**lordvader** · 24-11-2012, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by indika7777

I totally agree with Kflyer and Slaviator. There is a bigger aim behind of this coporatoion with UL and MJ. If you look at there are lot of full service carriers are suffering and thus they use this technique of having a subsidery LCC. Lot of examples to get off EK started flydubai and feeding in and out, SQ started Scoot and feeding in and out, QF started Jetstar and feeding in and out, Qatar is planing their own LCC.... these big players are making these move to catch up some part of their low end budget passenger business. So it is same that UL doing with Mihin. If you look at financials of MJ and UL you will realize. Please note flydubai to make its first profit it took nearly 5 yrs. So its not a miracle soon you restructure your business you will get the benefits right away. You will see this benefits with MJ in another couple of years.

These other airlines may have LCCs but their LCCs have critical mass. Whereas Mihin only operates 3 aircraft to a very limited number of destinations. So there isnt much of a feeder network for UL. And with the exception of QF/JQ none of the other companies codeshare with their LCC subsidiaries. In fact EK and FlyDubai are totally separate companies.

**Srilankan1** · 24-11-2012, 08:36 PM

according to planespotters.net MJ has now 4 Aircrafts. 2 320 s & 2 321 s.

is that correct??

**Shashanka** · 25-11-2012, 03:39 PM

Originally posted by Srilankan1

according to planespotters.net MJ has now 4 Aircrafts. 2 320 s & 2 321 s.

is that correct??

Yep, you are correct, but actually MRB is no more flying mihin's flights, so they have only 3 live birds (one A320-200 and two A321-200s). these days MRB's paint work is carrying out, one engine has to be installed, after that it'll leave!!

**Srilankan1** · 25-11-2012, 07:45 PM

Originally posted by Shashanka

Yep, you are correct, but actually MRB is no more flying mihin's flights, so they have only 3 live birds (one A320-200 and two A321-200s). these days MRB's paint work is carrying out, one engine has to be installed, after that it'll leave!!

Thanks for the clarification Shashanka.

**newsflasher** · 26-11-2012, 02:38 PM

Turkish Airlines list CMB as planned new destination amongst others http://www.turkishairlines.com/tr-tr...cial/2012.aspx

**uthum** · 26-11-2012, 08:17 PM

Originally posted by newsflasher

Turkish Airlines list CMB as planned new destination amongst others http://www.turkishairlines.com/tr-tr...cial/2012.aspx

The English version; http://www.turkishairlines.com/en-tr...cial/2012.aspx

**Speedbird** · 26-11-2012, 10:07 PM

Originally posted by uthum

The English version; http://www.turkishairlines.com/en-tr...cial/2012.aspx

This is an excellent news; I would say better than KE; recently THY has been expanding rapidly...Good North American, North African, European and CIS connection to Sri Lanka

**Speedbird** · 26-11-2012, 10:23 PM

http://www.dailymirror.lk/news/23788...f-rs85-bn.html

Another definition for double dipping...? CEO for two companies does this mean conflict of interest or as the spin doctors will say bringing "synergy" of the both companies together...

**Kflyer** · 27-11-2012, 01:44 AM

Speedbird, had UL and MJ still been competing, the situation would be much worse I'd say. It is easier to criticize when you look at it from outside, but there is a reason why SAS is laying off 800 and selling Wideroe + GH, Iberia laying off 4,500 and CX has just announced new cost cutting measures. By this I do not mean to say everything is right - but the overall industry situation is not at all positive right now. As far as I know, neither company pays its directors who are appointed by the GoSL - hence something seems to have been lost in translation. I could be wrong though.

**Speedbird** · 27-11-2012, 03:08 AM

Originally posted by Kflyer

Speedbird, had UL and MJ still been competing, the situation would be much worse I'd say. It is easier to criticize when you look at it from outside, but there is a reason why SAS is laying off 800 and selling Wideroe + GH, Iberia laying off 4,500 and CX has just announced new cost cutting measures. By this I do not mean to say everything is right - but the overall industry situation is not at all positive right now. As far as I know, neither company pays its directors who are appointed by the GoSL - hence something seems to have been lost in translation. I could be wrong though.

Gee, that did not take long...without nitpicking loss making airlines around in the world; lets say in Sri Lanka there are no place for TWO airlines to operate under government management.

now lets look at the payment for the board of directors; you say they are not paid any if thats true then Auditor General has committed perjury by submitting a erroneous report to parliamentary COPE; which is a serious offence as per parliamentary standing orders. if that's so why doesn't UL or MJ management take the Auditor General to courts.

**Kflyer** · 27-11-2012, 03:18 AM

Originally posted by Speedbird

Gee, that did not take long...without nitpicking loss making airlines around in the world; lets say in Sri Lanka there are no place for TWO airlines to operate under government management.

now lets look at the payment for the board of directors; you say they are not paid any if thats true then Auditor General has committed perjury by submitting a erroneous report to parliamentary COPE; which is a serious offence as per parliamentary standing orders. if that's so why doesn't UL or MJ management take the Auditor General to courts.

Nope, I'm going by what's on UL's publicly available Annual Report which says that the directors did not receive any rumenaration. It could be different for MJ though.

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