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  • umedhah
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 600

    #3076
    Originally posted by Banuthev
    Aren't they interested in Hong Kong -> Colombo -> Male' -> Hong Kong route ? Cathay never served nonstop schedule flights to Colombo except those seasonal flights.
    Arent they flying direct to CMB??? or still via BKK
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    • dilushasg-bdavi
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 555

      #3077
      Originally posted by Banuthev
      It's not a better idea you compare the quad engine aircraft with twin engine as A340 consumes a more fuel than the A330. A330 has become a favorable choice for most of the airline and it worth we keep them for a longer period of time.

      We can compare with 4R-ADA with other active A340-300s. Best examples coming to my mind are these : Turkish Airlines TC-JDJ/K (MSN23/25), Lufthansa D-AIGB/C/D (MSN24/27/28) etc.. I am sure even more older A340s are still in service with other airline. I recently heard Philippine Airline leasing a few ex-Iberia A343s to serve the new routes. A340 has some demand in the aircraft-market due to A333's range limitation.

      SriLankan Airlines has to maintain the aircraft properly. If they are not afford to upgrade the interiors on older birds they should stop using the older birds on long-haul route, where passenger expecting facilities like working PTVs etc.
      i saw a few pics of some A343s leased by Pakistan's Airblue....................any idea who was their previous operators????

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      • Azamh
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2011
        • 246

        #3078
        Originally posted by Banuthev
        Aren't they interested in Hong Kong -> Colombo -> Male' -> Hong Kong route ? Cathay never served nonstop schedule flights to Colombo except those seasonal flights.
        I Think that's a Good Idea if they Fly Via CMB - But Unfortunately There load to Male is V good

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        • Max
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 919

          #3079
          SriLankan’s IAA enters 2013 IATA Premier Circle

          The International Aviation Academy (IAA) of SriLankan Airlines has been conferred a prestigious recognition from the International Air Transport Association (IATA), as one of the World’s Top Ten Authorised Aviation Training Centres of its 2013 Premier Circle – an assessment made on the evaluation of 440 aviation training centres in 90 countries.

          The centres have been evaluated on the rate of growth, expansion, student ratings, standard of facilities and the centres’ commitment to promote IATA training programmes.

          Among the world’s Top Ten are Etihad Airways; Japan’s, Air Cargo Training Centre and Japan Aircargo Forwarders Association (JAFA); Kenya’s Air Travel & Related Studies Centre; the Qatar Aeronautical College; India’s, Trade Wings Institute of Management, Speedwings Academy for Aviation Services, Akbar Academy of Airline Studies, and India International Trade Centre.

          ‘This is a significant endorsement of SriLankan Airlines’ efforts to equip the next generation with the knowledge and competences necessary in the dynamic aviation industry and the run up to achieve the aviation hub status that we have committed to work towards, as the national carrier of Sri Lanka, said Mr Nishantha Wickremasinghe, Chairman, SriLankan Airlines.

          http://www.srilankan.com/en_uk/coporate/news-details/85

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          • banuthev
            Administrator
            • Dec 2010
            • 3947

            #3080
            Originally posted by umedhah
            Arent they flying direct to CMB??? or still via BKK
            Cathay Pacific serve Colombo flights via Singapore (4WK) and via Bangkok (3WK) so no nonstop schedule flights. SriLankan Airlines would have taken advantage over Cathay Pacific's onestop flights and we would have started nonstop flights to Hong Kong long time ago. It's terrible to see SriLankan operating two stop flights to China (stop in HRI and BKK) which shows SriLankan is still in old fashion. In my opinion, SriLankan Airlines should start nonstop flights Hong Kong, Beijing and Shanghai immediately instead of planning new destinations in South Africa, Australia etc.. If they fail to serve China with nonstop flights SriLankan will loose the market to other local airline (i.e. Orient based airlines are expanding the service in the Maldives)

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            • 4R-ALA
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 383

              #3081
              Originally posted by Banuthev
              Cathay Pacific serve Colombo flights via Singapore (4WK) and via Bangkok (3WK) so no nonstop schedule flights. SriLankan Airlines would have taken advantage over Cathay Pacific's onestop flights and we would have started nonstop flights to Hong Kong long time ago. It's terrible to see SriLankan operating two stop flights to China (stop in HRI and BKK) which shows SriLankan is still in old fashion. In my opinion, SriLankan Airlines should start nonstop flights Hong Kong, Beijing and Shanghai immediately instead of planning new destinations in South Africa, Australia etc.. If they fail to serve China with nonstop flights SriLankan will loose the market to other local airline (i.e. Orient based airlines are expanding the service in the Maldives)
              well said banuthev...i'm eagerly waiting for UL non stop services to china and HKG, but as always they just say it in paper never put into action. plus i flew down to CMB last wed from DXB on UL226 A330 (4R-ALH), highly disappointed with UL. first of all incoming flight delayed by 6 HOURS..we weren't even informed until we checked in at DXB. on board the brand new interior plane, no reason was voiced for delay except for a mere apology, plus the CHINESE captain took off w/o switching on the ac and switched it on after take off plus after repeated complaints from pax and crew. staff looked highly disinterested, plus meals were served w/o any menu cards, (honestly do you ever place your order at even a fast food chain blindly). beyond this food wasn't so great either. shocked and stunned at the service standards of UL which has gone down hill.

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              • Azamh
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 246

                #3082
                Originally posted by 4R-ALA
                well said banuthev...i'm eagerly waiting for UL non stop services to china and HKG, but as always they just say it in paper never put into action. plus i flew down to CMB last wed from DXB on UL226 A330 (4R-ALH), highly disappointed with UL. first of all incoming flight delayed by 6 HOURS..we weren't even informed until we checked in at DXB. on board the brand new interior plane, no reason was voiced for delay except for a mere apology, plus the CHINESE captain took off w/o switching on the ac and switched it on after take off plus after repeated complaints from pax and crew. staff looked highly disinterested, plus meals were served w/o any menu cards, (honestly do you ever place your order at even a fast food chain blindly). beyond this food wasn't so great either. shocked and stunned at the service standards of UL which has gone down hill.
                4R-ALA - YES your are rite i did UL 423 HKG-CMB 7/4 Its more like a No frill airlines nothing much you get TV but it doesnt work you get Radio but only Left side you can listen........

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                • 4R-ALA
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 383

                  #3083
                  Originally posted by Azamh
                  4R-ALA - YES your are rite i did UL 423 HKG-CMB 7/4 Its more like a No frill airlines nothing much you get TV but it doesnt work you get Radio but only Left side you can listen........
                  that's what...@Azamh....honestly if UL wants to get into top category airlines, they really should get brains before new a/c. it hurts me to see our national airline in this way, if we want to surpass 9W and even Air Astana, UL should work tirelessly. no wonder air astana is rated central asia no 1 airline for 2013 by world travel awards.

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                  • ecureilx
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 616

                    #3084
                    Originally posted by 4R-ALA
                    ... on board the brand new interior plane, no reason was voiced for delay except for a mere apology, plus the CHINESE captain took off w/o switching on the ac and switched it on after take off plus after repeated complaints from pax and crew. staff looked highly disinterested, plus meals were served w/o any menu cards, (honestly do you ever place your order at even a fast food chain blindly). beyond this food wasn't so great either. shocked and stunned at the service standards of UL which has gone down hill.
                    ah, the AC is off to save on climbing power / fuel

                    BTW, on another UL flight, the CC were busy chatting with each other .. ah .. come on ..

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                    • NeatStuff
                      Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 59

                      #3085
                      Originally posted by Cayman
                      The best way to stop the spread of misinformation is to provide factual information. So, what really happened?
                      I asked about this incident again, basically what has happened is he has tried to make a landing using autopilot. The system on the ground that guides the aircraft in had either not been on or was miscalibrated, the plane hit the tarmac and bounced, and instead of doing a go around which is SOP, pilot tried to land and hit the tail. No one can reliably say its a write off. An UL engineer said its a write off and a captain said its not. Said captain is pretty senior and probably doesnt want the information of a write off to come out if it is so. Either way, something has happened to the plane and UL has not put out a statement. Its their fault for not coming clean and letting this 'misinformation' circulate.

                      And to the point Kflyer makes on hiding information, this is Sri Lanka, the authorities try to hide information ALL the time. All we are left with is reports from individuals who do not want to be named due to fear of reprucussions.

                      Someone with access to flight databases can check and see if the plane has undertaken any recent flights. Its been over 3 weeks now so if there was no incident it should be flying again.

                      On a side note, I was told UL requires its captains to do an autopilot landing once every certain period of time, I cannot remember the exact time period but it might be 3 months. I was also told, more worryingly, that they sometimes dont even inform ground control they are doing an auto pilot landing which is SOP at any international airline. This is first hand info from UL pilots. Shocking to say the least.
                      Last edited by NeatStuff; 23-07-2013, 12:44 PM.

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                      • CalgaryLankan
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 251

                        #3086
                        Aviation Herald reporting 4R-ADA and it looks like Simon picked it from French BEA weekly report which is reporting this incident for some reason.

                        Aviation Herald - News, Incidents and Accidents in Aviation

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                        • LukeSkywalker
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 188

                          #3087
                          SriLankan firms A350 order

                          SriLankan firms A350 order

                          By David Kaminski-Morrow22 July 2013
                          SriLankan Airlines has firmed its tentative order for four Airbus A350-900s, a deal which had been disclosed at the Paris air show. The order is part of a deal covering 13 aircraft. SriLankan had already ordered six A330-300s on 19 June. Airbus says it has since firmed an agreement for four A350s - bringing to 35 the number of customers for the twinjet type. The A330s and A350s will be fitted with Rolls-Royce engines. SriLankan is also taking three additional A350-900s on lease. The combined twinjet deal will help replace the carrier's A340 fleet. Source: Air Transport Intelligence news
                          SriLankan Airlines has firmed its tentative order for four Airbus A350-900s, a deal which had been disclosed at the Paris air show. The order is part...

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                          • newsflasher
                            Member
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 84

                            #3088
                            Originally posted by 4R-ALA
                            and yet again true say @Banuthev, one of my Pakistani batch mates stated that the only way Pakistanis can connect to the far east from karachi is through UL or TG. apparently SQ, CX and MH no longer serves karachi. plus most pakistani's prefer UL over TG due to prices and connectivity and of course service but TG services are way standardized.

                            so yes, UL should fly non stop to all chinese routes, which includes HKG, but they should add Seoul and Chengdu. beyond that i feel that by placing UL A320's to SIN and KUL is utter rubbish, coz those routes should be served purely with A332 and A343, (coz UL used to fly all long haul a/c to SIN and KUL) and i have no idea why they downgraded on capacity...!!!
                            CX still fly here via BKK, theres also Air China to Chengdu and China Southern to Urumqi.
                            Last edited by newsflasher; 24-07-2013, 08:04 PM.

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                            • ecureilx
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 616

                              #3089
                              Originally posted by NeatStuff
                              An UL engineer said its a write off and a captain said its not. Said captain is pretty senior and probably doesnt want the information of a write off to come out if it is so. Either way, something has happened to the plane and UL has not put out a statement. Its their fault for not coming clean and letting this 'misinformation' circulate.
                              So, if it was me .. I would make the pilot do the test flight, post rectification

                              Well .. in reality, maybe they covered it from the media, but can't cover it from the other safety boards / Airbus / Insurers .. or if they do, then wait for SL to get downgraded / blacklisted ..

                              And to the point Kflyer makes on hiding information, this is Sri Lanka, the authorities try to hide information ALL the time. All we are left with is reports from individuals who do not want to be named due to fear of reprucussions.
                              You can hide from media, but not from the people whom it matters ..

                              Ah, wait, here it is ..

                              http://avherald.com/h?article=465c7ef4&opt=0 (as quoted by CalgaryLankan .. )

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                              • LukeSkywalker
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 188

                                #3090
                                Originally posted by ecureilx
                                So, if it was me .. I would make the pilot do the test flight, post rectification

                                Well .. in reality, maybe they covered it from the media, but can't cover it from the other safety boards / Airbus / Insurers .. or if they do, then wait for SL to get downgraded / blacklisted ..



                                You can hide from media, but not from the people whom it matters ..

                                Ah, wait, here it is ..

                                http://avherald.com/h?article=465c7ef4&opt=0 (as quoted by CalgaryLankan .. )
                                A thread in pprune suggests a 3 month repair. Either way they will not be able to keep this under the lid when the insurers from the leasing agency get involved. I wonder what spin our residential 'social media expert' will give now

                                Might turn out to be cheaper to scrap her for spares though.

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