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  • Speedbird
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 616

    #7306
    Originally posted by kennny15
    Three new A350s to the SriLankan fleet

    on the video say that the order was place in January 2016 and the delivery would be in October


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us8GTLzYBQM
    This is as good as wikipedia article...there were no orders placed in 2016...

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    • kennny15
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 164

      #7307
      Originally posted by Speedbird
      This is as good as wikipedia article...there were no orders placed in 2016...



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      • A350-XWB
        Junior Member
        • Feb 2016
        • 18

        #7308
        Originally posted by banuthev
        May be UL hasn't cancel the direct order for 4 x A350s with Airbus?
        Maybe UL cancelled the order but Airbus hasn't removed it yet from its order book. Same happened for the conversion of 2 AirFrance A380s into 3 A350s. This has been revealed in the AirFrance finacial report of last year but hasn't been changed in the official order book.

        I wouldn't rely on the video; MSN52 would not have been painted in white if it has to be delivered in november this year.

        Regards,
        Lucas & Philipp

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        • Max
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 919

          #7309
          Moody’s changes outlook on Sri Lanka’s rating to negative from stable

          Moody's Investors Service has affirmed the government of Sri Lanka's foreign currency issuer and senior unsecured sovereign ratings at B1 and changed the outlook to negative from stable.

          Some of these risks have already crystallized with the government taking responsibility for Sri Lankan airlines' (unrated) liabilities, worth Rs.461 billion or around 4% of GDP. These liabilities will inflate government debt, at least temporarily. We assume that the government will retain responsibility for some of these liabilities.

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          • banuthev
            Administrator
            • Dec 2010
            • 3947

            #7310
            Originally posted by A350-XWB
            Maybe UL cancelled the order but Airbus hasn't removed it yet from its order book. Same happened for the conversion of 2 AirFrance A380s into 3 A350s. This has been revealed in the AirFrance finacial report of last year but hasn't been changed in the official order book.

            I wouldn't rely on the video; MSN52 would not have been painted in white if it has to be delivered in november this year.

            Regards,
            Lucas & Philipp
            Hi A350-XWB,

            Do you think TK will be benefitted by adding 3 x A350s? Do you think Airbus will provide training on A350 to TK pilots & engineers. I heard that UL engineers and pilots are already getting training on A350.

            UL is going to focus on regional operations. As per sources Sri Lanka had placed an order for below aircraft from Airbus. Do you know the delivery dates & MSNs for below order.

            6 = A320neos for UL - Lease Agreement with undisclosed lessor.
            2 = A321neos for UL - Lease Agreement signed with ALC in Jan 2015
            2 = A321neos for UL - Lease Agreement signed with Aercap in Jan 2015
            2 = A320neos for MJ - Lease Agreement signed with ALC in Feb 2015

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            • Haleef
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 1468

              #7311
              Originally posted by kennny15
              Three new A350s to the SriLankan fleet

              on the video say that the order was place in January 2016 and the delivery would be in October


              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us8GTLzYBQM
              The A350 xwb deal is not yet cancelled. SriLankan is currently finding an alternative to bear up the cost to take them, as to leasing the a350 to Turkish is of no point, because they fly the aircraft, and SriLankan should still bear the cost even if they are flying. It would make no sense though, really. So this is what many senior executives of UL say, it's just spending their own money for another airline flying UL's aircraft, and in the end we receive the aircraft after it has been hacked. MSN 52 has been painted in full white is because the customer is still unclear, therefore AerCap is still not sure of who will take it. But to my guess, UL will take the A350
              Haleef Ismail
              www.youtube.com/haleef1 | www.instagram.com/cmb_spotter

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              • Speedbird
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2012
                • 616

                #7312
                Originally posted by Haleef
                The A350 xwb deal is not yet cancelled. SriLankan is currently finding an alternative to bear up the cost to take them, as to leasing the a350 to Turkish is of no point, because they fly the aircraft, and SriLankan should still bear the cost even if they are flying. It would make no sense though, really. So this is what many senior executives of UL say, it's just spending their own money for another airline flying UL's aircraft, and in the end we receive the aircraft after it has been hacked. MSN 52 has been painted in full white is because the customer is still unclear, therefore AerCap is still not sure of who will take it. But to my guess, UL will take the A350
                I dunno what you are talking about...out of 8 one is already sold

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                • LukeSkywalker
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 188

                  #7313
                  Originally posted by Speedbird
                  I dunno what you are talking about...out of 8 one is already sold
                  Out of the 4 direct orders (of any of which are yet to be assembled) one is sold.

                  Haleef is talking about the leased ones. As they are in various stages of assembly UL is running around like a headless chicken trying to offload them to someone as they can't get away easily without massive penalties.

                  If the cost of offloading them is prohibitive it would make sense for UL to keep using them whilst they find a more attractive client to offload (sublease) them to.

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                  • Serendib
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1807

                    #7314
                    UL welcomes its future leaders

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                    • LukeSkywalker
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 188

                      #7315
                      Originally posted by Serendib
                      I just don't get it... If there are issues letting go of existing staff at least can't they stop inducting more new staff? UL is just merrily going on it's way in bloating the organization with more people (and there are supposed to be more incoming from MJ shut down)

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                      • banuthev
                        Administrator
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 3947

                        #7316
                        Originally posted by LukeSkywalker
                        I just don't get it... If there are issues letting go of existing staff at least can't they stop inducting more new staff? UL is just merrily going on it's way in bloating the organization with more people (and there are supposed to be more incoming from MJ shut down)
                        Are they replacing the existing ones in the post? UL needs talented people in the management. Their HR, Marketing, IT etc are terrible.

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                        • banuthev
                          Administrator
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 3947

                          #7317
                          Originally posted by LukeSkywalker
                          Out of the 4 direct orders (of any of which are yet to be assembled) one is sold.

                          Haleef is talking about the leased ones. As they are in various stages of assembly UL is running around like a headless chicken trying to offload them to someone as they can't get away easily without massive penalties.

                          If the cost of offloading them is prohibitive it would make sense for UL to keep using them whilst they find a more attractive client to offload (sublease) them to.
                          UL would've converted the order with Aercap from A350 to narrowbody aircraft before MSN52/55/60 are coming to assembly.

                          Good thing Arjuna Ranathunga has done he converted the two B737 to two A320neo with ALC Leasing Co, as soon as the UL management has changed back in Feb 2015. Otherwise Gov would've ended up with additional costs in introducing Boeing.

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                          • ejanson65
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 628

                            #7318
                            Originally posted by LukeSkywalker
                            I just don't get it... If there are issues letting go of existing staff at least can't they stop inducting more new staff? UL is just merrily going on it's way in bloating the organization with more people (and there are supposed to be more incoming from MJ shut down)
                            UL is not a business - it's a Racket. The Racketeers are busily padding their bank accounts at the expense of the people of Sri Lanka. When it all falls apart they will run away overseas with their ill-gotten gains.

                            18 months of new government and not a single indictment - Sri Lanka is truely a Failed State.
                            Always fly a stable approach - it's the only stability you'll find this business

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                            • Ihsanr
                              Junior Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 14

                              #7319
                              Originally posted by LukeSkywalker
                              Out of the 4 direct orders (of any of which are yet to be assembled) one is sold.

                              Haleef is talking about the leased ones. As they are in various stages of assembly UL is running around like a headless chicken trying to offload them to someone as they can't get away easily without massive penalties.

                              If the cost of offloading them is prohibitive it would make sense for UL to keep using them whilst they find a more attractive client to offload (sublease) them to.
                              Reliable sources say, the 3 lease A359 deal still on, Sri Lankan will take delivery of these from October this year. No takers at their price, so Sri Lankan will use the 3 aircrafts. They looking at selling the other 4.

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                              • A350-XWB
                                Junior Member
                                • Feb 2016
                                • 18

                                #7320
                                Originally posted by banuthev
                                Hi A350-XWB,

                                Do you think TK will be benefitted by adding 3 x A350s? Do you think Airbus will provide training on A350 to TK pilots & engineers. I heard that UL engineers and pilots are already getting training on A350.
                                Not sure if TK will benefit from those A359. Could be a good opportunity for TK to check out this great airplane though.
                                We think that TK would employ the UL engineers instead of sending their own if it is true that UL engineers have started their training.

                                Regards,
                                Lucas and Philipp

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