Sri Lanka Aviation

**4R-SRD** · 01-07-2013, 11:17 PM

Originally posted by Banuthev

Good move definately if Seychelles is a profitable route for SriLankan Airlines. But I can note that no ONEWORLD alliance member currently flying to Seychelles. Also Qatar Airways will withdraw Seychelles service from September 1 this year. Perhaps SriLankan Airlines can add Seychelles as it prepares to join ONEWORLD.

Yes UL can connect Seychelles with other oneworld destinations and UL can grab the european market with easy connection via CMB. All depend with Fleet capacity.

**4R-SRD** · 01-07-2013, 11:22 PM

Originally posted by sfernando34

That's strange. I heard somewhere that they were going to decrease the number of flights, but now they are going to increase? Interesting. I read somewhere (can't remember where) that the technical stopover will be in Al Ain, United Arab Emirates, as the A321s are unable to fly the entire way without refueling. I wonder why they are now breaking the route into two parts.. will they receive traffic rights between UAE and Colombo I wonder? I wonder why they are downsizing from A330s to A321s on the CMB routes.

will they receive traffic rights between UAE and Colombo I wonder?

As per the GDS they dn't have Traffice Rights from AAN -CMB

**Speedbird** · 01-07-2013, 11:39 PM

Originally posted by Banuthev

....
Good move definately if Seychelles is a profitable route for SriLankan Airlines. But I can note that no ONEWORLD alliance member currently flying to Seychelles. Also Qatar Airways will withdraw Seychelles service from September 1 this year. Perhaps SriLankan Airlines can add Seychelles as it prepares to join ONEWORLD.

This is a greenfield market if UL can connect LHR and FRA flights to Seychelles then this could be more profitable than flying to MEL

**Speedbird** · 02-07-2013, 12:03 AM

Originally posted by 4R-ALA

australia is a huge market for UL, infact most of the srilankan who shuttle between Australia and Colombo use either SQ, CX, EK and many other far eastern carriers that fly into CMB. and FYI, most of the srilankan expatriate community in Australia are not refugees or people who have fled the country due the civil war, most of them do travel to SL on regular basis, and this is quoted through people who live in MEL whom i personally know.

I lived in Sydney for couple of years; I know this market. Most of the Sri Lankan expat in MEL work in the public transport sector in Melbourne. All of them want UL to fly to MEL but when push come to shove...i.e. let say UL demands a premium $100 per tickets since it is non stop flight to CMB; again let say family of 4 want to travel to CMB. This is $400 difference; it is big chump change (nearly 1/3 of monthly house mortgage)...hope you get the picture. Next issue is GST rate in Australia is 10% so most of them (including other races living in Australia) want to stop in SIN to buy big ticketed items. Only way UL can make this route profitable is...UL need to compete against the kangaroo route. for that UL need a larger fleet; which UL does not have. larger fleet with excess capacity with lower labour cost can undercut the establish carriers in the kangaroo route.

By the way there are no 400K Sri Lankans living in MEL or in all over Australia. who ever gave you that stats has been smoking something...& the burghers who left Ceylon in 60's does not consider them as Sri Lankans and has extremely limited ties to Sri Lanka. They consider themselves as Australians. They visit Europe or North America for their holidays.

**Speedbird** · 02-07-2013, 12:10 AM

Originally posted by ecureilx

I doubt that will happen, seeing some of the Mihin prices, ex-SIN and CGK !!! You buy Mihin, travel in UL, what other airline can beat that ??

Full service for LCC fares .. !!!

Who ever coming up with these type of business plans need to be fired...

...but again when the business plan has Executive inputs...then whom to be blamed...

As for LCC operation Govt should develop RML or hand it over to private sector to run the airport; but again RML is not in Hambantota district so nothing will happen

**Speedbird** · 02-07-2013, 12:54 AM

Who is this idiot?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ed-toilet.html

**Cayman** · 02-07-2013, 05:59 AM

Originally posted by Speedbird

Who is this idiot?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ed-toilet.html

Over paid, over pampered players of a game fixed months in advance!

**Cayman** · 02-07-2013, 06:09 AM

Originally posted by Speedbird

This is a greenfield market if UL can connect LHR and FRA flights to Seychelles then this could be more profitable than flying to MEL

Are you suggesting that UL flights to have a stop over in SEZ on their way (and back) to FRA and LHR?

I am not sure if this is a good idea, given that SEZ is saturated with EK and EY etc. Mahe has a small Sri Lankan population, but they always prefer to fly via DXB.

Even though Sri Lankans do not need visa to enter Seychelles, I highly doubt that they will vacation a lot there given the prices (and the mediocre service standards).

**NeatStuff** · 02-07-2013, 06:50 AM

Originally posted by Banuthev

Thought EY already sending widebody aircraft to CMB. Saw once EY's B777 taking off from CMB. Notsure that was a passenger or cargo version.

Nope its been 320 all along. Is there anyway to check which aircraft they are using post August?

**ecureilx** · 02-07-2013, 07:57 AM

Originally posted by Speedbird

Who is this idiot?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ed-toilet.html

I wonder if he had enough strength to have even got close to shifting the pressurised door .. never mind the fact that the pax would have been terrified at the prospect of getting sucked out

For the lesser initiated, you cannot open a flight door, when the plane is at altitude .. due to pressurization !!!

**MalaysiaMustafa** · 02-07-2013, 09:23 AM

But i am confused. The Tri-Nation tour is still going on. But the report says, they boarded another flight from London returning to Colombo.

After leaving the BA flight at Gatwick, the player and his team mates subsequently boarded another plane belonging to another airline taking them on to Sri Lanka.

**kenkari** · 02-07-2013, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by NeatStuff

Nope its been 320 all along. Is there anyway to check which aircraft they are using post August?

It shows an Airbus A330-200 on 5th august on lastminut.com, so it must be a widebody aircraft.

**Azamh** · 02-07-2013, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by NeatStuff

Some interesting news, was chatting to three EY captains yesterday and they said EY is going widebodied on their CMB flights from August 1st. I have eargerly been awaiting this day as I avoided EY simply because they used a 320. They said the airline will not make an annoucement which I find odd as it is a capacity increase and they usually do announce these. Can someone check the various databases and see if EY is now showing 330's instead of 320's from August onwards? Thanks

CMB Colombo Bandaranayake Intl LK [VCBI]
AUH Abu Dhabi Intl AE [OMAA]
THU 22 Aug 2013

Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- -----------------------------------------------------------
EY 267 CMB 04:35 AUH 07:30 332 J7 C7 D7 W7 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M0 Q0 L0 V0 U0 E0 T0

One A330 Everyday instead of 2 A320

**Azamh** · 02-07-2013, 12:12 PM

I think BA is not doing well in CMB - LGW sector

Almost Each flight has 150 Y Seat left And 30 J Seats left.

Any Comments

CMB Colombo Bandaranayake Intl LK [VCBI]
LGW London Gatwick UK [EGKK]
THU 18 Jul 2013

Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- -----------------------------------------------------------
BA 2042 CMB 14:05 LGW 22:50 777 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W4 E4 T3 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 G9 O9

CMB Colombo Bandaranayake Intl LK [VCBI]
LGW London Gatwick UK [EGKK]
MON 15 Jul 2013

Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- --------------------------------------------------------------
BA 2042 CMB 14:05 LGW 22:50 777 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 G9 O9

CMB Colombo Bandaranayake Intl LK [VCBI]
LGW London Gatwick UK [EGKK]
THU 01 Aug 2013

Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- -----------------------------------------------------------
BA 2042 CMB 14:05 LGW 22:50 777 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W5 E5 T3 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q7 G2 O2

CMB Colombo Bandaranayake Intl LK [VCBI]
LGW London Gatwick UK [EGKK]
THU 11 Jul 2013

Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- -----------------------------------------------------------
BA 2042 CMB 14:05 LGW 22:50 777 J7 C7 D7 R7 I6 W9 E8 T8 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 G9 O9

CMB Colombo Bandaranayake Intl LK [VCBI]
LGW London Gatwick UK [EGKK]
SAT 03 Aug 2013

Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- -----------------------------------------------------------
BA 2042 CMB 14:05 LGW 22:50 777 J7 C7 D4 R3 I0 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N7 Q5 G2 O2

**Azamh** · 02-07-2013, 12:20 PM

HRI Traffic Including CMB pax

the yield is very low for example

MON 08 Jul 2013

Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- -----------------------------------------------------------
FZ 551 HRI 07:30 DXB 10:50 73H Y4 A4 I4 E4 O4 W4 T4 N4 M4 R4 B4 U? V4 K4 Q4 L0

MON 08 Jul 2013
UL 818 HRI 14:15 BKK 19:20 343 J4 C4 Z7 Y7 P7 W7 M7 B7 H7 K7 A7 O7 E7 R7 U7 Q7 L7 T7 V7

MON 15 Jul 2013

Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- -----------------------------------------------------------
FZ 551 HRI 07:30 DXB 10:50 73H Y4 A4 I4 E4 O4 W4 T4 N4 M4 R4 B4 U? V4 K4 Q4 L4

UL 818 HRI 14:15 BKK 19:20 343 J4 C4 Z7 Y7 P7 W7 M7 B7 H7 K7 A7 O7 E7 R7 U7 Q7 L7 T7 V7

UL 114 HRI 14:25 CMB 15:05 343 J4 C4 Z7 Y7 P7 W7 M7 B7 H7 K7 A7 O7 E7 R7 U7 Q7 L7 T7 V7

TUE 09 Jul 2013

Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- -----------------------------------------------------------
FZ 551 HRI 07:30 DXB 10:50 73H Y4 A4 I4 E4 O4 W4 T4 N4 M4 R4 B4 U? V4 K4 Q4 L0

UL 819 HRI 12:10 CMB 12:50 343 J0 C0 Z0 Y7 P7 W7 M7 B7 H7 K7 A7 O7 E7 R7 U7 Q7 L7 T7 V7

UL 119 HRI 12:25 MLE 13:20 343 J4 C4 Z0 Y7 P7 W7 M7 B7 H7 K7 A7 O7 E7 R7 U7 Q7 L7 T7 V7

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