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Originally posted by banuthev View Post
ATDB confirmed MSN 1261 will be leased from Caryle Aviation Partners. Mistakenly ATDB reported as AerCap before on their site. Believe to be UL signed the lease agreement with Caryle Aviation Partners for MSN 1261 in Aug24.
Heard MSN 1261 back in hangar for maintenance work and team from UL to visit MSN 1261 at CHR in couple of weeks.
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Hi All,
Greetings!
8D's CMB RUH CMB flight numbers will be 8D851 and 8D852. Frequency 2, 4, 6.
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any news about the "to be newest" airline in SL?(the start-up company)
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Originally posted by A359 View Post
Per the CH-Aviation article, Richard Nuttall will stay on until his replacement is selected. However, it seems clear that he is on his way out as he was not part of the UL senior management delegation that met with the President. I think the government is doing the right thing but not privatizing the airline, but its a shame that they are bringing in a new CEO when Richard Nuttall helped the airline survive Covid and the foreign exchange crisis and brought it back to operational profitability.
I think transitioning to Boeing is too much of a stretch for UL at the moment. In my opinion 787s would be acceptable, but would be a real shame if they replaced A320s with 737s, since the former are so superior in every way.
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Originally posted by n863gt View Post
If UL tries to go Boeing, now is the chance because there are(as reported) white-tail a/c that are now NTU(CN cant take up US jets).
though the chance exists, I'm 100% skeptical about it because of the all-airbus nature of UL..
anyone know why Nuttall isn't the head anymore?
I think transitioning to Boeing is too much of a stretch for UL at the moment. In my opinion 787s would be acceptable, but would be a real shame if they replaced A320s with 737s, since the former are so superior in every way.
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Originally posted by VC10fan View Post
Very much agree with you.
I hope that the LHR slots have been leased out, for a bit more income.
The Chairman's demands to Airbus are on a par with Trump demanding Greenland.I don't know what he Chairman seriously expects these demands to yield; after all, what went on in UL is up to UL to address! And demanding redress from Airbus while the guilty here are still not charged is hypocritical at best. I can only imagine he expects to get a small write down or a good deal on A330s, but it could also be a precursor to talks with Boeing.....
Agree too re Richard Nuttall, he has brought UL into an operating profit and has a clear vision of the way forward, more than any political appointee has done in recent history.
though the chance exists, I'm 100% skeptical about it because of the all-airbus nature of UL..
anyone know why Nuttall isn't the head anymore?Last edited by n863gt; 19-04-2025, 01:30 PM.
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Originally posted by A359 View Post
Well said, ULlove. Strongly agree that well timed slots at LHR will be beneficial for UL. Given how much in demand good slot are, they will be hard for UL to acquire. And its a shame that the two weekend morning arrivals into LHR that UL had are not going to be operated this summer.
Talking of deals, the idea that Airbus will gift UL four aircraft due to the previous corrupt A330/A350 deal - as noted in the article below - is ludicrous to me. It boggles my mind that the chairman of UL can make statements like this (especially when the individuals responsible for the corrupt deals have not been held to account by the SL authorities). And as an outside observer, I am sorry to read that Richard Nuttall is being let go. To me, he seemed to make a lot of sense and had a vision for the airline. I fear that a political appointee will run the airline into the ground, assisted by these so-called "experts."
I hope that the LHR slots have been leased out, for a bit more income.
The Chairman's demands to Airbus are on a par with Trump demanding Greenland.I don't know what he Chairman seriously expects these demands to yield; after all, what went on in UL is up to UL to address! And demanding redress from Airbus while the guilty here are still not charged is hypocritical at best. I can only imagine he expects to get a small write down or a good deal on A330s, but it could also be a precursor to talks with Boeing.....
Agree too re Richard Nuttall, he has brought UL into an operating profit and has a clear vision of the way forward, more than any political appointee has done in recent history.
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Originally posted by ULlove View Post
Another deal maker trying to spoil UL...
Look the likes of TRZ, IXM, CJB, COK,TRV,CCJ and India are not LHR, SIN or JFK but these are markets in India that have very little competition and these are vital for UL survival as other members have posted.
I would rather see UL have a larger narrow body fleet serving these desitnations and having first mover advantage rather than letting competition eat us up like in MLE with all the 5th freedom flying taking away pax and cargo vital for our survival.
UL just needs to Retime LHR for Early am Arrival and Midnight arrival in CMB. Will help the EU, N.America traffic connect vice vera via BA/AA and like wise a midnight arrival will connect to SYD and MEL also.
As I have said before, we have fine soft product. We just need a solid hard product, re time select flights (like LHR, FRA,CDG) to connect to Australia and Far east and a super FFP and we are alright. I don't see anything else wrong with UL despite being govt owned and compared to some other run down national carriers.
Talking of deals, the idea that Airbus will gift UL four aircraft due to the previous corrupt A330/A350 deal - as noted in the article below - is ludicrous to me. It boggles my mind that the chairman of UL can make statements like this (especially when the individuals responsible for the corrupt deals have not been held to account by the SL authorities). And as an outside observer, I am sorry to read that Richard Nuttall is being let go. To me, he seemed to make a lot of sense and had a vision for the airline. I fear that a political appointee will run the airline into the ground, assisted by these so-called "experts."
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Originally posted by A359 View PostI wonder if this article is accurate about the proposed turn-around plan for UL?
Transitioning to an all wide-body fleet and eliminating "particularly its 15 unprofitable Indian routes" does not make sense to me.
It seems the proposed plan envisages halving the size of the airline and becoming a point-to-point carrier.
That strategy doesn't make sense to me when we have a market of 1.4 billion people next door who are gaining more disposable income and have a desire for overseas travel.
Look the likes of TRZ, IXM, CJB, COK,TRV,CCJ and India are not LHR, SIN or JFK but these are markets in India that have very little competition and these are vital for UL survival as other members have posted.
I would rather see UL have a larger narrow body fleet serving these desitnations and having first mover advantage rather than letting competition eat us up like in MLE with all the 5th freedom flying taking away pax and cargo vital for our survival.
UL just needs to Retime LHR for Early am Arrival and Midnight arrival in CMB. Will help the EU, N.America traffic connect vice vera via BA/AA and like wise a midnight arrival will connect to SYD and MEL also.
As I have said before, we have fine soft product. We just need a solid hard product, re time select flights (like LHR, FRA,CDG) to connect to Australia and Far east and a super FFP and we are alright. I don't see anything else wrong with UL despite being govt owned and compared to some other run down national carriers.
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Originally posted by n863gt View Post
this idea is borderline BS. what UL really should do is (maybe) update their existing cabins, and have a uniform hard product.
UL needs to go double daily to most of its destinations in India (esp. South India) to make seamless connections to its long-haul flights both ways. It should have a strong presence at most OneWorld hubs (reinstate Hong Kong, daily to Tokyo, double daily to Doha etc.) so it can codeshare with OneWorld partners to destinations not served on their metal. There should be consistency in the hard product across the short-haul fleet (4R-MRE is an embarrassment) as well as the long-haul fleet. And instead of shrinking they need to grow.
Hopefully there will be some people with vision and long term goals that can make this happen. The whole country will benefit if UL grows.
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Originally posted by A359 View PostI wonder if this article is accurate about the proposed turn-around plan for UL?
Transitioning to an all wide-body fleet and eliminating "particularly its 15 unprofitable Indian routes" does not make sense to me.
It seems the proposed plan envisages halving the size of the airline and becoming a point-to-point carrier.
That strategy doesn't make sense to me when we have a market of 1.4 billion people next door who are gaining more disposable income and have a desire for overseas travel.
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